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So, whats the '8800GT' of the moment?

You sure about that?

Asus GeForce 8800 GTS HTDP 320MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail £169.99 (~£200 inc VAT). That was on my first order with OCuk.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...-cards/nvidia-geforce-8800gtx-309275/consider

GeForce 8800GTX

Price at launch: £460.00

£200 for a mid-range card and £460 for a top end card, sounds pretty much the same as what we have these days?

If you got a 8800GT for £100 then it would have been a fair while after launch.

8800gt was released quite a while after the GTX and GTS 320/640. They were about £130 for a few days but then shot up to £170 because of how popular they were. They were just short of 8800gtx performance, sometimes matching it. For a while they were the only card worth buying. To go any faster you had to spend double and to go £20-30 lower, you would get a much slower card.

I bought my 3850 256mb shortly after release for about £103 and I bought my 4850 512mb on release day for £115
 
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You sure about that?

Asus GeForce 8800 GTS HTDP 320MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail £169.99 (~£200 inc VAT). That was on my first order with OCuk.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...-cards/nvidia-geforce-8800gtx-309275/consider

GeForce 8800GTX

Price at launch: £460.00

£200 for a mid-range card and £460 for a top end card, sounds pretty much the same as what we have these days?

If you got a 8800GT for £100 then it would have been a fair while after launch.

I never had an 8800GT as I had a 3870 and then a 4850 as my cards

The 3870 launched at ~£160 wasn't it? And I paid ~£120 for it used within 2-3 months of launch.

The 4850 launched at ~£140, and I paid about £100 for it again used a few months after launch.

I refuse to spend more than £150 on a single component in my PC
 
I never had an 8800GT as I had a 3870 and then a 4850 as my cards

The 3870 launched at ~£160 wasn't it? And I paid ~£120 for it used within 2-3 months of launch.

The 4850 launched at ~£140, and I paid about £100 for it again used a few months after launch.

I refuse to spend more than £150 on a single component in my PC

4850s were £120 at launch, I bought 2 of them.
 
Dunno was ages ago and I don't tend to bother remembering prices a few years down the line, either way they launched cheap and I saved another £30-40 on launch price by getting it used about 2 months down the line.

The point is, the 58xx and 6xxx series and the NV cards now do not offer value for money anywhere near what we had back then. They are AWESOME cards, but cost a lot more
 
4850s were £120 at launch, I bought 2 of them.

I had the powercolor version which was the cheapest at £115. after that, they sat at about £130 for a year

The point is, the 58xx and 6xxx series and the NV cards now do not offer value for money anywhere near what we had back then. They are AWESOME cards, but cost a lot more

I agree. when the 5850 came out, I posted in a few theads on here saying that I thought they were too expensive. Most people disagreed with me.
 
4850s were £120 at launch, I bought 2 of them.

The 4850 was the '5770' of that generation imo (despite having similar/slightly better raw power than the 5770). The 5770 launced at £130 and was still good value for money at that price.

The HD 4890 (£200) was the mid-high card (same as the 6950 is now) and the 4870 X2 (£400) was the high end model. Prices really haven't changed all too much.

Maybe it used to be that ATI had to keep their prices a bit lower as they didn't have as strong a 'brand' as Nvidia, however I still believe you can get decent 'bang for your buck' in the £120-160 price range.

edit: @mame - 5850 was decent value at launch, that's why they also held their value for about a year...
 
edit: @mame - 5850 was decent value at launch, that's why they also held their value for about a year...

I wanted a 5850 at launch. they were £190 for a couple of days and then went up to about £205. I decided to wait untill the price dropped. A year later they were £220. Then I bought a slightly slower GTX 460 on release day for £180:o and they dropped pretty quick. ah well, you win some, you lose some. My last card was a GTX 260-216. Bought it in early 2009 for £126. Over a year later they were £140 and still well recommended by people on here at that price and at that time.
 
8800gt was released quite a while after the GTX and GTS 320/640. They were about £130 for a few days but then shot up to £170 because of how popular they were.

I don't really consider that the 8000 series offering massively better 'bang for your buck' I call that 1 card being under-priced for "a few days"...

edit: Shame about the 5850, guess sometimes it's hard to judge the right time to buy.
 
The 4850 was the '5770' of that generation imo (despite having similar/slightly better raw power than the 5770). The 5770 launced at £130 and was still good value for money at that price.

The HD 4890 (£200) was the mid-high card (same as the 6950 is now) and the 4870 X2 (£400) was the high end model. Prices really haven't changed all too much.

Maybe it used to be that ATI had to keep their prices a bit lower as they didn't have as strong a 'brand' as Nvidia, however I still believe you can get decent 'bang for your buck' in the £120-160 price range.

edit: @mame - 5850 was decent value at launch, that's why they also held their value for about a year...

That's nonsense, the 4870X2 is an X2 card, it should not be compared to single cards.

The 4890 was the top card of the singe cards, but it also MONTHS after the 4850/70.

The point is that 3870 was the top single card, with 3850 2nd.
4870 was the top card, with 4850 2nd (until 4890 launched)

The 4890 was just over £200, the 4850 was about £120 on launch (so less by the time the 4890 was out)

5870 was the top card, with 5850 2nd.

And so on for 6xxx


The top end of single gpu solutions used to be around the £200-250 price point, offering the ability to play all latest games on high+ settings, the 5770 is not that card though.
 
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A 460 is definitely worth upgrading.
This is the 768MB version, the weaker one, vs the 8800 GT:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/178?vs=156

Easily. The 5850/70 were hailed for their low power demands - the 5xxx and 6xxx gens of ATI are very good in this regard. The 5850 will only use 20-30 watts more than your 8800GT. The 470 uses somewhat more, but still should be safely under 400watts (total system draw).

Very helpful post, thanks very much.

Right now the MSI Radeon 5850 is a better deal than any GTX 460

I used the awesome page MeMeMeMe posted to compare the 5850 and 460 and it appears you're right, for the price increase the 5850 offers a healthy increase in performance. You may have moved me over to ATI for the first time since the 9800 days. Thanks.

Unfortunately the 265 has been sold, great deal and congrats to whoever got it. I was too slow!

The top end of single gpu solutions used to be around the £200-250 price point, offering the ability to play all latest games on high+ settings, the 5770 is not that card though.

I honestly don't remember those days. My first high end card was a Geforce 4 Ti... i forget, it was the best one. That set me back £310. Sadly those days are also behind me, mid-low cards for me from now on :(
 
If you are determined to stick to the green side then the GTX 460 1GB if you game at 1920x1200 or the 768MB version if you game at a lower resolution. You'll get a second hand one from the MM for around £100 and about the same from eBay.

You are pretty much guaranteed that any version of the GTX 460 will clock to at least 800/1600/2000, giving you stock GTX 470 performance in most games.
 
That GTX465 doesnt mention anything about it being a B grade product

It's in the B-Grade section, overclockers just copy and paste the product description over.


Ok, i'm torn, MSI 5850 for £138 or a 1gb Asus GTX 460 for £130. My case is kinda cramped as it is so i'm slightly worried about the size of the 5850, but then, it's more powerful than the 460!

Yes i know i should buy second hand, but i'm one of those stupid people that likes the full warranty, reciepts etc.

[EDIT] Leaning towards the 460. Benchmarks show a measly 1fps difference in many cases in the 5850s favour, but the 460 apparently overclocks better(?) and has the size advantage.
 
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Looking at a recent review of the new 560 techpowerup show the 1GB 460 at 77% of the 560 and the 5850 at 90%, on that basis I'd go for the 5850.

Both will be great though.
 
Looking at a recent review of the new 560 techpowerup show the 1GB 460 at 77% of the 560 and the 5850 at 90%, on that basis I'd go for the 5850.

Both will be great though.

Interesting, thanks for that.

I'm now leaning back towards the 5850 damn it! Turns out the 460 has a oversized cooler that makes it only a dozen mm shorter than the 5850, nullifying one of the big advantages
 
It's in the B-Grade section, overclockers just copy and paste the product description over.

its actually in the clearance section, and unlike some of the other GPU'S in there, no mention at all of it being B grade in the title.
 
The Zotac version I had also had a full size HDMI connection, as well as 2 DVI ports, that also carrys the audio signal through it as well.
 
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