I don't want a job
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Go on then, what did it involve?
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Scum.
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Mate had someone turn up for an interview who said that they only turned up because the Jobcentre made them and that they didn't want a job. Mate grassed them up and had a right go at the Jobcentre for wasting his time
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Sorry to say but people see this type of thing and automatically think "con" as most of them are.
That's a strawman, and the point is completely disingenuous. This man has no intention of doing *anything*, let alone building a home and creating an allotment... not sure where you got those ideas from.
In this country you have a decent quality, free education system up to the age of 18. There is no reason for anyone to be unemployable, unless they have a disability, illness or condition that prevents it. We should have a support system for people that fall on hard times, and for people that are transiently out of work, but long term unemployment supported by the state should not be a career choice.
IMO someone should come for him in the night, he could disappear and wake up in the middle of the desert in a work camp of some description. I'm pretty sure he owes this country 2 years of 65 quid a week, thats £6760, so on minimum wage that means he owes us at least 1100 hours of work. That should be his punishment. Let him come back when he's ready to get a job and be a responsible member of society, if he still intends to sponge, send him back again.
I think that may be the problem here......
To those who say you cant kick him out on the streets if there are kids involved, what was adoption invented for?
I find it hard to be particularly angry at this guy, he's not taking something I want (I don't want to exist on £65). Compare that to bankers who suck up millions and don't require a tenth of that to have a great life.
Like depressed people he's got to a level where he is just existing, which is pretty sad really.
Personally I blame the fixation that somehow 'other people' are responsible for giving you a job.
If you want to set up your own business and do something for yourself, you have to jump through no end of hoops just to be legal. If you want to employ somebody else to help then it's a nightmare of paperwork.
Basically we are being coerced into being spoonfed all our working lives, when we should be free to make money wherever there are opportunities.
Say I wanted to give somebody 30 hours work, they'd have to declare all that and fill in a zillion forms. Basically there is no incentive out there for making your life better through work.
Like depressed people he's got to a level where he is just existing, which is pretty sad really.
Personally I blame the fixation that somehow 'other people' are responsible for giving you a job.
If you want to set up your own business and do something for yourself, you have to jump through no end of hoops just to be legal. If you want to employ somebody else to help then it's a nightmare of paperwork.
Basically we are being coerced into being spoonfed all our working lives, when we should be free to make money wherever there are opportunities.
Say I wanted to give somebody 30 hours work, they'd have to declare all that and fill in a zillion forms. Basically there is no incentive out there for making your life better through work.
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Basically he has to choices.Stay on the dole..Go hungry and cold and get into debt,or work Go hungry and cold and get into debt.
Its not that benefits are an attractive lifestyle choice,Its just that work in the UK for most is an even worse choice.
The governments only answer is to say you will be better of in work,but there solution is not to make work pay more,just make benefits pay less!
And in any case even if he works its the taxpayer which will be paying most of his wages via tax credits and other top up benefits.
Years of corporate lobbying have seen to that.
The question we should be asking can we afford to give him a job?
Its not that benefits are an attractive lifestyle choice,Its just that work in the UK for most is an even worse choice.
The governments only answer is to say you will be better of in work,but there solution is not to make work pay more,just make benefits pay less!
And in any case even if he works its the taxpayer which will be paying most of his wages via tax credits and other top up benefits.
Years of corporate lobbying have seen to that.
The question we should be asking can we afford to give him a job?
classic, you are owned till the day you die, ain't that the truth
I've a really simple answer
every time they go to pickup their dole cheque they get given a task (pain this wall etc) once they have done it to the satisfaction of the guy in the job center then they can have their money AND NOT BEFORE
would mean REALLY clean streets and nice freshly painted walls everywhere
I'm sure I can find LOADS of places where they need windows cleaning or bins emptying or maybe some animals mucked out etc.
every time they go to pickup their dole cheque they get given a task (pain this wall etc) once they have done it to the satisfaction of the guy in the job center then they can have their money AND NOT BEFORE
would mean REALLY clean streets and nice freshly painted walls everywhere
I'm sure I can find LOADS of places where they need windows cleaning or bins emptying or maybe some animals mucked out etc.
go on then, what is it?
I want one more than I want to live in a cardboard box begging for food, put it that way.