the fez ST isnt that fast, once you have driven the focus the fez seems utterly pig slow
Can you ever go back from RWD?
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the fez ST isnt that fast, once you have driven the focus the fez seems utterly pig slow
Depends on your definition of fun but in my experience FWD can be just as fun as RWD. Sure you might not be going everywhere sideways but you can give it a lot more **** without ending up in a bush so in that respect it can be more fun, depending on the circumstances.
Having said that my RWD skillz are rather weak! Must do some track days this year!
Get yourself booked on http://www.carlimits.com/ or similar. He will teach you how to drive and control your car properly.
To be fair no ST would be a match on any 330i/d BMW's! Maybe a 320i to 60 but then it gets even! A supercharged ST well that’s a different story.
Not to start a brag or anything but my nippy 182, running around 195 can just edge a 330i not the new type! Anything motorway speeds and my little clio may lag behind. Come to a twisty and its bye bye 3 series.
IMO the best fun I have had is this car on a twisty country road. FWD is far more easier to exploit and not get wrong going too quick round a bend!
4WD is where its at. My friends Evolution can and does stick to the road like glue, even at crazy speeds. Its define physics!
Not to start a brag or anything but my nippy 182, running around 195 can just edge a 330i not the new type! Anything motorway speeds and my little clio may lag behind. Come to a twisty and its bye bye 3 series.
IMO the best fun I have had is this car on a twisty country road. FWD is far more easier to exploit and not get wrong going too quick round a bend!
4WD is where its at. My friends Evolution can and does stick to the road like glue, even at crazy speeds. Its define physics!
Fun is a purely subjective term, but as I've said before a FWD car can be just as much fun as a RWD, it's just a different type of fun. A well setup FWD chassis that is biased towards oversteering when past the limit can be huge fun. Turn in, lift off, and hold it sideways for a bit before stamping on the loud pedal and bringing the arse back into line. DC2 Integras are particularly good at this trick
I think the difference is it's easy to have fun in even a mediocre RWD chassis, but for a FWD to be fun it needs to have a good, well set up chassis.
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Ha you sure there?
I has one \o/
Trying to cover the OP.
I have no concerns about moving back from rwd to fwd, although there is a most definite BUT.
My decision was because my circumstances include low mileage, mostly in town and with little opportunity to have any fun any more. So I was happy to go for a motorised sofa. In that case, the benefits of rwd are a bit spurious, whilst the advantages of better packaging, less weave in windy conditions and lower frictional losses (thus improved fuel consumption) are genuine advantages for fwd.
I have no concerns about moving back from rwd to fwd, although there is a most definite BUT.
My decision was because my circumstances include low mileage, mostly in town and with little opportunity to have any fun any more. So I was happy to go for a motorised sofa. In that case, the benefits of rwd are a bit spurious, whilst the advantages of better packaging, less weave in windy conditions and lower frictional losses (thus improved fuel consumption) are genuine advantages for fwd.
Realistically, no. thing is, the jump to RWD is usually accompanied by a big jump in power. and power is something you do notice every day, even if not driving hard.
it should be for double-treble the price of my car....?
and also isn't that the top end 3 series i excluded from the argument?
a bone stock 220 gsi turbo will do 0-60 in 6.2 which will leave yours for dust AND costs about a grand and is a rover but performance isnt everything, a 330i is in a totally different league to a fiesta
and what is better still is a Turbo rwd v8!
Yea you can, but only because my diff is welded
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[TW]Fox;18505005 said:
if you look in the 0-60 section youll see the time for my stock 220 turbo was 6.58 seconds, granted thats not 6.2 but I would have thought with a skilled launch you could get close
b. he was saying that it should be quicker for treble the price, I'm saying that price doesnt matter as the rover is cheap but its not that great a car.
[TW]Fox;18505005 said:
a) I'd say a well maintained one or one still making its stock power will still achieve its claimed times it made in 1994.
b) Good point as I'd suspect they will be poo in corners and suffered torque steer, am sure a couple here have owned them previously and could comment.
Plenty of experience of FWD AWD and RWD.
It's hard to comment broad brush without getting onto ground level and bringing up specific cars. So, trying not to bring specific cars into the fray - in my experience for outright feelsome careless hooliganism it's FWD, then AWD then RWD.
For honing the skills it's RWD, then FWD then AWD.
For getting from A to B in the shortest possible time without an unplanned visit to A&E it's AWD.
I've tried not to worry too much about driven wheels - personally if I like the car and I like the driving dynamics and I want it - I'll go for it irrespetive of whether it's a pusher a dragger or a bit of both.
It's hard to comment broad brush without getting onto ground level and bringing up specific cars. So, trying not to bring specific cars into the fray - in my experience for outright feelsome careless hooliganism it's FWD, then AWD then RWD.
For honing the skills it's RWD, then FWD then AWD.
For getting from A to B in the shortest possible time without an unplanned visit to A&E it's AWD.
I've tried not to worry too much about driven wheels - personally if I like the car and I like the driving dynamics and I want it - I'll go for it irrespetive of whether it's a pusher a dragger or a bit of both.