2011 Census soon!
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What if the gov didn't realise people had so many old boilers and therefore make a scheme to help or extend the provisions of an existing scheme? You can't say that is pointless.
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In 2008, I received a randomly selected questionaire from the ONS (Office of National Statistics) asking some very personal questions on my Age, Childrens names, Alcohol consumtion, Drug use - even if any of my kids used drugs ??? etc. which would be used to determine the recreational passtimes of a sample of the British public.
I Ignored it.... only to receive it again a month or so later.
I phoned the department and basically told them to removed my address from their system and not send me any more rubbish - as the questions were way too personal, and as I wasn't getting paid to do it - I didn't have the hour or so time to fill it in.
Fast forward another 2 or so months - and strangely enough - I receive yet another questionaire (exactly the same one) with quite a demanding letter saying we really need this and you are just 1 random in a 1000.. etc. etc.
This time I phoned them up and let rip down the phone - stating that I had requested my details be removed from the database - and the fact that as they hadn't complied with my previous request to not send any more rubbish - they were now breaking the law.
Lets just hope the ONS make a better job of the Census...... Becuase I ain't filling it in with anything they can potentially use against me in the future. And one thing you can be sure of - Lockheed Will send the data to the US and they Will be using it for stuff other than normal British census analysis. They don't give a monkeys about British Data laws.
I Ignored it.... only to receive it again a month or so later.
I phoned the department and basically told them to removed my address from their system and not send me any more rubbish - as the questions were way too personal, and as I wasn't getting paid to do it - I didn't have the hour or so time to fill it in.
Fast forward another 2 or so months - and strangely enough - I receive yet another questionaire (exactly the same one) with quite a demanding letter saying we really need this and you are just 1 random in a 1000.. etc. etc.
This time I phoned them up and let rip down the phone - stating that I had requested my details be removed from the database - and the fact that as they hadn't complied with my previous request to not send any more rubbish - they were now breaking the law.
Lets just hope the ONS make a better job of the Census...... Becuase I ain't filling it in with anything they can potentially use against me in the future. And one thing you can be sure of - Lockheed Will send the data to the US and they Will be using it for stuff other than normal British census analysis. They don't give a monkeys about British Data laws.
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[TW]Fox;18522396 said:
1. old boiler = not efficient
2. My boiler is new, so I know its efficient
3. Typical keyboard warrior, remark
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Are you rypts brother or something?
Well done you. There are 60m other people in this country though, not just you.
Stop making it so obvious then.
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[TW]Fox;18522542 said:
Your gas supplier, gives you info about more efficient boilers, and how to pay for it.
So the Gov do not need to ask that question in a census?
I haven't been provided with any information by my gas supplier about getting a more efficient boiler...
It might turn out that you are not the perfect representative of the UK population and maybe it's worth conducting the census afterall.
The more we carry on the more daft you make yourself look.
If you honestly cannot think of a single reason why the government might be interested in the average energy efficiency of the populations heating systems then there really is no hope.
No the gov will never get back to "you" they will look at the data and go hmmm x% has this **** boiler we'll start a program to give them £200 to upgrade as it means in future we can save a lot of gas.
It will be up to you to come to them after the scheme has started and say you have that boiler, the data is anonymised before it's analysed by politicians.
the stuff you get from your supplier is just advertising spam they send everyone.
Exactly. It provides data which can be used to decide whether there is a need, or what sort of benefits might be realised by such schemes, etc.
But the government can't ask your gas supplier for the information about you, it's not just about informing you it's about informing them.
So they can plan around the fact half the country is wasting gas and for X money they could reduce our gas usage by Y which means if russia fiddles with the gas again we'll know more accurately how we can extend the period of time we can comfortably last while new supplies are diverted etc.
Or if they can replace those peoples boilers totality to help them meet emissions targets.
I suppose you could change the law so your gas supplier could ha d over all your details on usuage boiler make and model etc to the government but that seems a little less secure than just asking you.
Would you care this much if a bloke in the pub said "what boiler have you got mate?"
Would you start saying it was between you and your gas company and walk out or just tell him?
such as?
so the uk government should design it's own text recognition software?
that's going to be expensive and less effective.
Should the government also design it's own OS, car engines, processors and everything else it uses?
Lockheed are providing tools/equipment not actually seeing or being given the data.
But then again you know that but you'll keep misrepresenting it till the end of time like you do most things.
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Jesus wept, really? You really can't see it?
[TW]Fox;18522307 said:But the Census is there to give the government information, its no good you knowing you've got an inefficient boiler if the government doesn't know and therefore cannot do anything about it
Most importantly they can weigh up options such as LPG ports, importing gas, building power stations - or in the short term would a campaign of grant funded home improvements work out cheaper?
Basically they need people to cooperate. Usually the same people who are being awkward about the census are the same ones who constantly moan about how rubbish the country is.
I have nothing to hide and I will fill out the form when it arrives. But how can they legally force you to fill it in? Seems like we should have the right to refuse if we wanted to.
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