The demo is supposed to sell the bloody game!
, what's the point of a demo then?. If i give you a car to trial run for 10miles and you hate it, you'd hardly come back and buy it. First impressions count
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The demo is supposed to sell the bloody game!
, what's the point of a demo then?. If i give you a car to trial run for 10miles and you hate it, you'd hardly come back and buy it. First impressions count
Anyone watched that video? Around the 3minute mark he is on about control and how they dont want the player to loose control by forcing them to see something...yet how many cutscenes where in that demo? I took my hands off my keyboard and mouse so many times to watch a cutscene...
Also I find it interesting how you guys are looking at what is and isnt an RPG. I am actually writing my dissertation on this exact subject. It seems clear that the "RPG genre" and "role playing" have two seperate definitions that go with them. I dont want to talk about it in here as there is already too much rage going on, I just thought I would share my thought on it.
Also I find it interesting how you guys are looking at what is and isnt an RPG. I am actually writing my dissertation on this exact subject. It seems clear that the "RPG genre" and "role playing" have two seperate definitions that go with them. I dont want to talk about it in here as there is already too much rage going on, I just thought I would share my thought on it.
So don't buy it. Get over it. Spend your money on one of the other great titles that are coming out this year.
Play the demos before hand though
The demo is supposed to sell the bloody game!
If i give you a car to trial run for 10miles and you hate it, you'd hardly come back and buy it. First impressions count
So don't buy it. Get over it. Spend your money on another car.
Test drive them before hand though
That's the point of a demo is it not?
Revisiting The Witcher next in time for The Witcher 2
.Aye I guess, which leads to another point of a demo: to decide whether you like it or not and whether you should spend on the final product or save your cash . I guess the demo has performed this admirably.
Some people here should be thanking Bioware.
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Hmm i can think of a lot of thinks to thank Bioware for and regarding DA2 they are not positive
Some people here should be thanking Bioware.
Fans of Bioware's games should be thanking them for ruining what they liked best about their games?
That makes no sense to me.
no - for producing a demo for them to discover that they do not like it and as such save themselves £30.
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Should every game they make be exactly the same? Aimed at exactly the same audience? Why aren't they allowed to try something different?
They have made plenty of different games - Mass Effect, Jade Empire, Kotor, none of which I liked, but that doesnt bother me.
None of their games have to be the same, but Dragon Age was always advertised as and meant to have been:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...aq=2v&aqi=g1g-v3&aql=&oq=dragon+age+spiritual
The fact that they refuse to maintain such a brilliant genre similar to the one that made them who they are today is ridiculous when a huge number of gamers actually enjoy the gameplay found in Baldur's Gate and DAO and want more of it. There is no need to dumb down everysingle genre of video game into a console hack n slash, what is so good about turning everything into the dame boring format for the same audience who already have more than enough games to play?
And actually, as you say, in trying to 'change' DA2, they have actually made it appeal to exactly the same audience as every other game they make these days. Ironic.
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Lol - that is actually quite funny.
I like DAO and DA2 from what I have played, but they have really set themselves up for a fan lashing there.
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It's hardly a leap though is it? I mean Dragon Age had gore, sex, bad language. Hell the trailer even had Marilyn Manson as the soundtrack, it's not really all that similar to Baldur's Gate is it?
Those games you listed are all practically the same mechanics wise with the slightest of tweaks (Jade Empire Real time combat, Mass Effect more combat orientated)
I disagree, I found it to be very similar, particularly with the top down view camera, friendly fire AoE spells, and highly challenging gameplay.
I agree in some ways, any game released on a console as well means the PC will suffer because they need to simplify it, unless the game is too simple already, ala FPS with few key commands.
But some people, or a lot of people oddly can't understand the limitations a console has and how it translates into the game being worse for those of us who are used to more on a PC.
Still, I liked the demo, I'm going to be playing the full game.
Yea, thats exactly why I'm freaking mad.
I want my Baldur's Gate successor, damn you Bioware!
DAO was fine. DA2 isnt.
Check out this fun thread:
http://forums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?forum=84&topic=552318
ok played the demo now. Havent finished it yet though 
graphics a bit meh
sound a bit meh
However i have to say combat was much more fluid and dynamic than DA:O
When i fought the Ogre i could actually dodge his strikes. I couldnt really do this in DA:O possibly because of input lag maybe? What i mean is sure i can react to a spell being cast by an enemy (e.g. sleep or freeze etc) by dispelling it or whatever but i couldnt react to quick strikes by the enemy. (ie dodge them)
In dragon age 2 i can do that easily.
In dragon age origins it was more management of the party whereas now we have a definite move towards Individual control and optimization of that gameplay. Have to say it was quite fun
Also i had no problems zooming in and out of my character to get a better view. True i cant zoom all the way out but i think the focus this time is different.
Felt more immersive than Dragon Age Origins. Possibly due to the tighter focus this time AND the increased cinematics and i would say the conversation wheel.
Anyway i liked it
The skill tree looked fine as well. As long as they dont sacrifice things like the inventory (it didnt look finished).
I dont mind Bioware changing the focus to make the game more atmospheric and less about micro-management as long as they dont sacrifice certain RPG components.
So yeah quite impressed....i should go finish the demo now
graphics a bit meh
sound a bit meh
However i have to say combat was much more fluid and dynamic than DA:O
When i fought the Ogre i could actually dodge his strikes. I couldnt really do this in DA:O possibly because of input lag maybe? What i mean is sure i can react to a spell being cast by an enemy (e.g. sleep or freeze etc) by dispelling it or whatever but i couldnt react to quick strikes by the enemy. (ie dodge them)
In dragon age 2 i can do that easily.
In dragon age origins it was more management of the party whereas now we have a definite move towards Individual control and optimization of that gameplay. Have to say it was quite fun
Also i had no problems zooming in and out of my character to get a better view. True i cant zoom all the way out but i think the focus this time is different.
Felt more immersive than Dragon Age Origins. Possibly due to the tighter focus this time AND the increased cinematics and i would say the conversation wheel.
Anyway i liked it
The skill tree looked fine as well. As long as they dont sacrifice things like the inventory (it didnt look finished).I dont mind Bioware changing the focus to make the game more atmospheric and less about micro-management as long as they dont sacrifice certain RPG components.
So yeah quite impressed....i should go finish the demo now
