Dragon Age 2 - * Official *
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I already am, but thanks for the permission.Go do that then.
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Yeh thats true, you can have that one. At least they made an effort to please the elite rpg'er.
Oh the ironing.
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Intentional irony is intentional.
You go on about how you're some "elite RPGer" above everyone here just because you've played a few old games? Get over yourself, and don't make me laugh. There's plenty of people posting here both for and against that have played the same old games and more without resulting in them being pompous twerps.
Some of the stuff you've posted about DA2 is completely off fact. If you're going to troll the game, at least troll it based on accurate information that hasn't been passed to you in a game of giant internet Chinese whispers.
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spot on
Ill start by apologizing, i said the whole elite rpg'er because i knew it would catch someone. That was trolling (much like your Intentional irony is intentional?)
Lets not start name calling.
I and a lot of people have been bitterly disappointed by DA2 as a whole; DLC on the day of release as well as the high rez patch, it not being what the first game was and obviously trying to cash in on the console market.
We (the PT's
) are feeling a bit let down, im sure we will get over it with games that better suit our needs on the horizon. I loved the DA law, the books and pre release hype including the flash game.
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Ill start by apologizing, i said the whole elite rpg'er because i knew it would catch someone. That was trolling (much like your Intentional irony is intentional?)
Lets not start name calling.
I and a lot of people have been bitterly disappointed by DA2 as a whole; DLC on the day of release as well as the high rez patch, it not being what the first game was and obviously trying to cash in on the console market.
We (the PT's
I loved the DA law, the books and pre release hype including the flash game.
I get that people are disappointed with DA2, I am as well to some extent. There are certainly things about it that I would love to change, and more depth to it would be fantastic.
I don't think many people that have taken the "pro-DA2" stance have said it's either the best RPG, or even better than DA:O. In my opinion, it's not remotely close to either point. It doesn't stop it from being a good, fun, enjoyable game on it's own though. Shallow compared to what previous Bioware games have been, but still very enjoyable.
This is the way of the games industry at the moment. It's very hard and doesn't make a lot of business sense for a big studio to fund a big budget game for a small market. If this means we have to look to smaller studios for the extremely deep RPGs, that's how it's going to be.
I'll happily go back and replay DA:O, or BG, or NWN in a heart beat and often do, but while DA2 is here I'm more than happy to enjoy the new story, characters and experience that accompany it. I don't need a top down camera or AD&D rulebook to enjoy those things.
I just find a lot of the misinformation that it's being branded with slightly annoying, especially like it being branded a Hack and Slash, when it still fits well within the RPG genre, and actually has very few common elements with a Hack and Slash game. Almost as annoying as the people that call FA3 an FPS.
It certainly has it's flaws, but many of the things it is being accused of seem to be people extending their disappointment of the game rather than objective criticism in my opinion.
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DA:O was too hardcore of an RPG for me to get into, but I LOVED the top down cam. They definitely should have left that in.
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I do love how a apparently console targeted game has over 1200 posts on the pc forum and barely 50 on the console forum 
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Do I need to have played the first one to enjoy this?
I got about 70% through Origins and was bored stiff at that point.
The stories overlap, but you don't have to have played the first one to understand the second.
Ah ok, another thing I'm reading is the game takes place entirely in one area and gets boring fast, is that true?
I have done about 4 hours now and i'm still waiting for it to get better. Really dissapointed with the game they have taken one of the best games on the Pc and ruined it. But it's the way most developers are going now console first, crap port for the pc to rake in a few extra $... I have no idea why anyone needs the latest fancy graphics card's to play the latest Pc games there really is no need. Thank god for Starcraft keeping Pc gaming alive....
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It's mainly been based around one big city so far, but I've visited different areas as well. I've not found it boring so far.
I do love how a apparently console targeted game has over 1200 posts on the pc forum and barely 50 on the console forum
Yes, but you'll probably find that around 1100 of them were complaints from bhavv.
Installed this last night at around 1am. Played it for about 40 minutes and I actually enjoyed it. The combat is fast paced and fluent. And it actually seemed to run better than Origins.
If it stays as decent as it has been in the first blast, then I will probably enjoy it.
Menu systems are a bit gay though
If it stays as decent as it has been in the first blast, then I will probably enjoy it.
Menu systems are a bit gay though
Lol
Anyway, I have been playing for about 4 hours now and thought I would give my impressions of it.
IMHO despite the wide reaching changes in interface and combat, it still feels like Dragon Age. I have personally turned off all the tactics so I am playing the whole party (was sick and tired of switching to the mage and finding the fireball cooling down when I wanted it) and this is pretty much how I played DAO. I am still having to crowd control, use potions, position party members as I did with the first. I hardly ever used the ISO tactic-whatever view with the first and still managed to play tactically so I do not know what some of the others are saying that you just cannot play tactically without this view. That is the fault of the player not the game.
In terms of the combat; a simple hack n slash this is not.
In terms of the RPG element, apart from not being able to choose my starting race, I have been able to choose everything else from then on in. Apart from the mage, there is a good selection of skills to upgrade to. The Mage I thinks needs more. However in comparison to the first game this game is not in danger of becoming too bloated with skills that you have too much choice. I have posted this before in terms of the first game; that towards the end of DAO and throughout awakenings there were to many abilities that I found I was using only 50% of them.
If you can customise everything about your character past the start I do not know how people can say that this is RPG lite. Admittedly you can only upgrade to the skills on offer but I feel that there is enough to define roles of the party to create varied groups with which to approach the combat. The combat/team combos are nicely defined and easy to use aswell and adds another layer to encounters that your average 'hack n slash' would ommit.
In terms of scope; I have not played for long enough to really comment, however I was in dark town (I think that is what it was called) last night and looking out over the bay that you had arrived by I did get a sense of scale and a wider world out there.
Anyway, I am enjoying it so far. It is not totally dumbed down to be like Darksiders (ace game btw
) as some people (or press) have compared it to. I do not feel in its transition to console it has taken that much away from the PC crowd. I think it does show well that a console game can work well on the PC. Where as DAO showed well that a PC game does not work well on a console.
Hoping this arrives pretty soon. Due to the mess with the DX11 settings related to Nvidia cards, I have had to use the DX9 renderer to play in the meantime. So, taking it very slowly until this is fixed.
