You're surprised at bull**** coming from sky news? Did you not see that piece Charlie Brooker did on 10 O'clock live of them making what looked like a movie trailer even backed to epic music of the reactor footage, followed immediately by an advert for Game of Thrones using near enough the same music.
Earthquake in Japan....9.0...ouch!
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You're surprised at bull**** coming from sky news? Did you not see that piece Charlie Brooker did on 10 O'clock live of them making what looked like a movie trailer even backed to epic music of the reactor footage, followed immediately by an advert for Game of Thrones using near enough the same music.
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AFAIK the Chernobyl reactor was on fire for days spewing out radioactive material, nothing like the situation in Fukishima. I don't know why you are mentioning other Japanese reactors, they have not been damaged.
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There are some quite good comments made in some BBC podcasts regarding the nuclear issue - both on Dr Karl and the Naked Scientist and Material World - explains the whole situation very well and to be honest it's not a big threat any more except to those who are working there.
And yet people are panicking like it was an unstable nuclear bomb right next to their house.
I bet Japanese are much calmer about the whole situation than other people, especially those living abroad or 6,000 miles away.
one thing i find funny is now the bbc realised they've reported micro sv as mili sv and the danger has thus reduced a crap load it's dropping off the news and also on the bbc yesterday I saw the banner ticker saying "Japan nuclear crisis raised to level 5 on the <forget name> scale, Chernobyl was a 7", and i was sat there thinking hang on the day before you said it was a 6 
Lately the bbc seem to make more mistakes than the guardian's proof readers.
Lately the bbc seem to make more mistakes than the guardian's proof readers.
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As usual folks just think chernobyl chernobyl chernobyl.
This is nothing like that flaming plant, they are so different in design it would take something else going mega stupidly wrong for it to become a world effecting event like chernobyl.
Sigh.
This is nothing like that flaming plant, they are so different in design it would take something else going mega stupidly wrong for it to become a world effecting event like chernobyl.
Sigh.
one thing i find funny is now the bbc realised they've reported micro sv as mili sv and the danger has thus reduced a crap load it's dropping off the news and also on the bbc yesterday I saw the banner ticker saying "Japan nuclear crisis raised to level 5 on the <forget name> scale, Chernobyl was a 7", and i was sat there thinking hang on the day before you said it was a 6
Lately the bbc seem to make more mistakes than the guardian's proof readers.
That quote originally cam from the french, claiming that it was a 6. Japan had it at a 4.
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I'd be more worried about the war in Libya, a lot closer to home and he has a history of attacking uk citizens
A dirty bomb is feasible etc
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Thats why its deceptive, like any wave breaking it doesnt rear up really till it hits the shoreline. You can see the mass of extra water that was heading inland though, that whole crosssection of sea was not normal height
Of course it is, it's entirely possible to not notice a tsunami wave on the open sea.
I wonder if this was the first notification of the tsunami or was it the helicopters circling above it?
The earthquake was the first notification of the tsunami. Any major earthquake is reported to government agencies instantly, that's how the warning system works. They only had about 30 min (or less than that, possibly around 20 min) for the tide to get to the shore though, you can't imagine evacuating the entire shore in such a short time
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That is simply not true, 200,000 taking part in the cleaning efforts people didn't die because of the radiation. In fact there's a lot of speculation about the number of deaths directly related to the radiation - it may be a few thousand, it may be tens of thousands, we don't know for sure (and that includes cancer victims as well).
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From the quote(having not watched the vid) it doesn't say 200k people died ,it says 200k people took part, 600k liquidators in total were used, (some say 800k but 200k apparently cleaned up an essentially non radiactive site). It says 200k people were involved and the radiation was at a lethal level, not that it killed them, earlier guys often wore no protection later guys DID wear protection.
Keep in mind this was 24 years ago so roughly the oldest people would be 50years old now. 60k of those 600k are dead, 1 in 10 way to young, thats FAR beyond normal levels of cancer deaths and this will be skewed as a much lower number were at Chernobyl and the worst effected sites, lots were much further away, probably meaning 1 in 5, maybe less, died from being in the highest radiation area. Another 165k of them or so, are disabled now, so you've got basically 1/3rd of them dead or disabled, and a lot of them didn't really that close.
Oops, I haven't quoted the whole thing:
Different sources quote different numbers:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2005/pr38/en/index.html
http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/progress/chernobyl.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4917526.stm
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/chernobyl/inf07.html
etc.
None serious organisations mention such high figures though.
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The guy who made the tags for that ******** video was exaggerating. If you watch the whole documentary "the battle of Chernobyl" (2006) they have interviews with plenty of surviving liquidators.... including those that were cleaning the mess off the roof of the reactor itself (pretty much the most dangerous job). The whole reason so many people were involved was to minimise the exposure to each individual.