New to water cooling

cjgardens said:
Can't beat a proper kit. My rx360 keeps things nice and chilly

wouldn't mine one of those monster tho but just to pricey
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i had a monster tfc
bought it for my latest rig but when i plumbed it all in i realised my 5970 wouldnt fit...totally gutted...i had sprayed it copper and it looked awesome...tried to mod it to make it fit but still no joy....ended up binning it because i had cut a few bits of when modding and didnt think i could sell it like that...that gutted feeling is coming back just writing this :(
 
cammy5477 said:
i had a monster tfc
bought it for my latest rig but when i plumbed it all in i realised my 5970 wouldnt fit...totally gutted...i had sprayed it copper and it looked awesome...tried to mod it to make it fit but still no joy....ended up binning it because i had cut a few bits of when modding and didnt think i could sell it like that...that gutted feeling is coming back just writing this :(
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No way. I would have had that. One one would have seen it in my case. There supposed to be the daddys and would fit nice in a haf 932
 
cammy5477 said:
hi chk4, just had a look at your case and i would have it so all fans are sucking cool air from outside the case apart from the big one at the top which will exhaust the warm air.... so side fan,front fan and fans on h-70 sucking in to the case and 200mm top fan exhausting the warm air....thats what id do mate
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im gonna try this, i set my h50 up to blow out the air.. probably inefficient
 
Sorry guys been a little bit mental here!

bilston said:
That is way too hot still though, for a CPU. Id be looking at how youre mounting it and things like that as those temps cant be right if all is installed correctly, surely? No offence to you ofcourse, just really baffling.
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Hey mate no offence taken, I ordered a pre configured overclocked bundle from OcUK. It never ran this high until I put in my 580.

cammy5477 said:
chk4...can you give me some info?
1. what i7 do you have
2. what voltage are you running it at
3. do you have speedstep enabled so that it only clocks up when you need it
4. what paste are you using

4.2 is quiet a high clock and to many extra volts would cause excess heat...maybe we can get it cooler yet....
also when you tighten down the four cpu cooler nuts did you tighten them down equally and not spin one down then the other etc etc?
these need to be spun down equally so that there is even pressure across the face of the cpu...this is important
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Hi again mate.
1. 920 mate
2. I'm not sure on voltage I think it's about 1.26, I'll check when I get home.
3. I've not checked the speedstep yet I must admit ( even though advised )
4. I used the standard that came with the h70 as I ran out of money! I can clean it all up and apply some better paste that has been recommended.

When screwing it down I did a little to each nut if that makes sense. I can order some new paste on Friday once I get paid and re apply it as I'm sure what was supplied was not that great ( and there didn't seem much of it! )

I can take screenshots of my bios when I get home so you can see exact figures. One thing I did notice the PCI-E thing in BIOS is set to 101 but all guides I see say to have this at 100.
 
101 is fine for PCIE. With the thermal paste, you need to use as little as possible and put about half a grain of rice's worth on the centre of the heatspreader on the CPU. Then use the heatsink to spread it out as you tighten the bolts down, it needs to be fairly well screwed down but not too much. Difficult to explain it just has to be done by hand really, but having too little pressure will mean the paste doesnt spread out enough and temps will likely suffer.

Good luck :)
 
bilston said:
101 is fine for PCIE. With the thermal paste, you need to use as little as possible and put about half a grain of rice's worth on the centre of the heatspreader on the CPU. Then use the heatsink to spread it out as you tighten the bolts down, it needs to be fairly well screwed down but not too much. Difficult to explain it just has to be done by hand really, but having too little pressure will mean the paste doesnt spread out enough and temps will likely suffer.

Good luck :)
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Hi mate, the way the H70 cold plate has the paste is that it's already evenly spread out if that makes sense.

I just found a post I made a long time ago
30-40 degrees while idle
51 while playing Crysis (everything on ultra)
71 while under full load stress testing running @ 4.2 for 30 mins
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This was at 4.2 so since the 580 the temp really has shot up. The 51 degree while playing game is what I was getting last night but still my CPU is 10 degrees hotter now under stress and 10-20 hotter when idle... Damn 580! lol.
 
can i just say...thor....you are a god!
what a cool name...sillyness over...
you want to get speedstep working that is going to help massive with your idle temps...when your ready give me a shout and i will go through it with you....getting some mx-4 will make a difference to it....clean it of properly though as a greasy mess wont help.....you get special stuff for this......when putting the new stuff on all you need is a half pea sized blob in the middle...do not be tempted to put more on as this will work against you..all you need is half a pea sized blob in the middle and a frozen pea not a big fat garden pea.....
screw it down alittle from each corner so its an even pressure...change it back to 100 from 101 but this wont make much difference.....did you buy new fans for the h70 or use stock? this will make a BIG difference...... your 920 must be a d0 because a c0 revision wouldnt go to 4.2ghz,thats a massive overclock for a 920 its definatley on its limit there...check the volts out for me and let me know and we can talk some more and see if we can get it lower still

speedstep and fans/mx-4 will lower it more though
 
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cammy5477 said:
can i just say...thor....you are a god!
what a cool name...sillyness over...
you want to get speedstep working that is going to help massive with your idle temps...when your ready give me a shout and i will go through it with you....getting some mx-4 will make a difference to it....clean it of properly though as a greasy mess wont help.....you get special stuff for this......when putting the new stuff on all you need is a pea sized blob in the middle...do not be tempted to put more on as this will work against you..all you need is half a pea sized blob in the middle and a frozen pea not a big fat garden pea.....
screw it down alittle from each corner so its an even pressure...change it back to 100 from 101 but this wont make much difference.....did you buy new fans for the h70 or use stock? this will make a BIG difference...... your 920 must be a d0 because a c0 revision wouldnt go to 4.2ghz,thats a massive overclock for a 920 its definatley on its limit there...check the volts out for me and let me know and we can talk some more and see if we can get it lower still

speedstep and fans/mx-4 will lower it more though
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Thanks a lot mate :) It is a cool name! Can work against me as people don't forget it :(

I'll post up here when I get home to go through that, thanks for that offer.

Will defiantly remember those words, a pea size - I won't go any bigger. I will also order some thermal paste remover stuff. Will also when re screwing it down defiantly do it a little at each. It's a D0 sorry I forgot to mention that.

Both fans are stock, what fans would you recommend to use? I think you already mentioned earlier in the thread so I'll go back over it or if you could link to the ones you would get I'll just buy two of them :)
 
Ok mate, home now. I took a few screen shots, not sure if they're the right ones though!
Below are the screenshots, also what should I do for this speedstep thing mate. Thanks
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hi mate...ok speedstep enabling

first of all download coretemp and run it....observe your cpu stats like what your multiplier and bclk is...if speedstep is not enabled it will be 21 x 200 or something like all the time and your temps will be the 40c-50c you said..this is so you have a comparrison to what your about to do..take a snap shot of it even and put it on your desktop for future reference.
now restart and get in to the bios....choose advanced/cpu configuration then scroll down and enable INTEL SPEEDSTEP TECH and INTEL C-STATE TECH. once done press esc once and f10 to save and restart pc......once back into windows open coretemp and you should see your multiplier fluctuate depending on load...when 0% use it will most likely sit at 12 x 200 which is 2.4ghz...note temps and do another comparison screen shot and post them up please so i can see....your idle temps at 2.4ghz when not in use will be a good bit lower than have it at 4.2ghz constant

this is step 1, step 2 change the fans on payday...post up your results will be good to see
 
Brilliant mate, thanks for that. I have them both enabled although one says disabled I took the pic before I did that.

Got a pic of each to show the change so thank you for that mate. Temps seem the same. Will be interesting to see the fan difference.

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(C1E) is speedstep and
C-State is the other one :D
 
fans and mx-4 should get you into the mid/late 30's which for 4.2ghz is pretty good...try lowering the vcore down to 1.29v and see if its stable then try 1.28v and so on till it bsod and that will lower temps also....its worth a play...you know if its not stable the back to 1.3v..

one thing i just noticed? does that say (ES) on your chip?
that would make it an engineering sample...did you fit that thor?
ocuk wouldnt have fitted that...
 
cammy5477 said:
fans and mx-4 should get you into the mid/late 30's which for 4.2ghz is pretty good...try lowering the vcore down to 1.29v and see if its stable then try 1.28v and so on till it bsod and that will lower temps also....its worth a play...you know if its not stable the back to 1.3v..

one thing i just noticed? does that say (ES) on your chip?
that would make it an engineering sample...did you fit that thor?
ocuk wouldnt have fitted that...
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Hey mate, cool will be nice to get it down to those temps to be honest. So you're literally saying I only need to play around with the vcore settings and nothing else and keep going until it's unstable? For a stability test how long should I run Prime95 for?

I noticed that on the screen shot after you mentioned it. Not actually looked on the chip itself. Nope didn't fit it my self mate literally until I took the old CPU cooler off the other day it hadn't been touched ( other than original build and 580 upgrade ) is a ES chip bad then?

Again thanks for all your help mate.
 
an ES chip is an engineering sample...when intel made the 920 d0 the first pre release chips are called ES......they dont have any temperature probs on them so if they get to hot they would destroy themselves...you are not aloud to sell them either...maybe drop ocuk a webnote and ask them because i cant and dont believe that they would put one in a system...they will have a simple explaination on this im sure ....

many would run prime 95 for hours and hours but id give it 20 minutes....after that its very unlikely it would fail......try it at 1.28v first,before you try check your temps at 1.28v just to see what diference it makes
 
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