Xbox 360 & PS3 vs PC graphics

1280x720 blurry? Should've gone to specsavers.

I use my PC at 1280x768 on a 37" Screen for everything (including gaming) and it looks crystal clear. And if you think a game that runs around 40-30fps is "crappy" you are living on another planet. For the record Gta4 also runs fine on the 'box. Oh crap, I just fed the troll.

I very much doubt that is crystal clear. That's the sort of resolution you'd use on a 15" screen!
 
I very much doubt that is crystal clear. That's the sort of resolution you'd use on a 15" screen!
Yes sure you would, because we all game on a 15" screen. :rolleyes: And although you may "very well doubt" it dosn't change the fact it's true. If you really think thats blurry as I said, pay a visit to the optician.

I'll bite.

1280 on a 37" screen is not "crystal clear" maybe by your standards but by enthusiast standards its not even murky

I've highlighted the two words that more than anything best describe your views on the subject. Oh yes, I must have low standards because I'm not a Elitist snob and don't need to run everything at 2560 (even though most PC's would struggle to play games at anything like that resolution on highest settings) and relentlessly attempt to put down anyone else that plays at anything under that.
 
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Well hopefully soon there will be a couple of games that will be well written for pc like portal 2 and battlefield 3. Both of these games i have high hopes for as we've been told theyre being developed for pc first. I just really hope every pc gamer buys them just to prove it is still worth it to make games for pc.

As for poor console ports nowadays the answer is just run monster resolutions, ive recently upgraded my 3 crap 17" screens for 3 mid range 20" widescreens. Makes it feel worth it to have a pc imo :)
 
I've highlighted the two words that more than anything best describe your views on the subject. Oh yes, I must have low standards because I'm not a Elitist snob and don't need to run everything at 2560 (even though most PC's would struggle to play games at anything like that resolution on highest settings) and relentlessly attempt to put down anyone else that plays at anything under that.

Of course I have a view on the subject however an elitest snob I most definitely am not. People like you do make me laugh, over opinionated and cant stand it when someone pulls you up on the tat you have posted.

I run my games at 1680 on a cost/performance ratio I can max out all of my games and see no reason to upgrade, far from the 2560 you assumed in your rage post, maybe you should take a deep breath before posting lies.

FACT of the matter is, 1280 on such a large screen by most PC Gamer standards isnt a good enough image quality
 
I play family/friends PS3s and XBOXes regularly if I can and I am a PC gamer. I have most of the games on PC that they have and the ones I play most often (L4D, Bad Company, Need For Speed series etc) look crisper on my PC than on any of the consoles. By crisper I mean just that. While the lighting and atmospheric qualities are similar, the sharpness and FSAA is far nicer when PC gaming and this is one reason why I will always be a PC gamer :)
 
Of course I have a view on the subject however an elitest snob I most definitely am not. People like you do make me laugh, over opinionated and cant stand it when someone pulls you up on the tat you have posted.

I run my games at 1680 on a cost/performance ratio I can max out all of my games and see no reason to upgrade, far from the 2560 you assumed in your rage post, maybe you should take a deep breath before posting lies.

FACT of the matter is, 1280 on such a large screen by most PC Gamer standards isnt a good enough image quality

Again you make me lol. I'm far from overopinionated. I do however absolutely despise fanboy drivel and the PC Elite are the worst of the bunch with their snobbish oversuperiority complex.

You state your far from an Elisitst Snob yet come out with tat like "of the matter is, 1280 on such a large screen by most PC Gamer standards isnt a good enough image quality

I rest my case.
 
Wait so you rage and assume I was using 2560 and when I pull you up on it (again) and say I dont I actually use 1680 as I can max my games out at that res i'm an elitest fanboy snob?

Its a simple matter of fact that 1280 in terms of PC gaming is a dated resolution that was high end a decade ago. Arguing with fact using childish insults is an easy way to make look like you dont have a clue what you are talking about
 
1280x720 blurry? Should've gone to specsavers.
1280x768 on a 37" Screen for everything (including gaming) and it looks crystal clear

1280x768 on a 37'' sharp ?
You are the one that needs to go to an optician really. 1280 on a 37'' is laughable.

1280 on such a large screen by most PC Gamer standards isnt a good enough image quality
It's not, that is a resolution we played at 10 years ago on small 17'' crt's...


By the way, your sig says ''37'' hdtv'', why do you play on such a low res on an hdtv ?
 
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1280x768 on a 37'' sharp ?
You are the one that needs to go to an optician really. 1280 on a 37'' is laughable.


It's not, that is a resolution we played at 10 years ago on small 17'' crt's...


By the way, your sig says ''37'' hdtv'', why do you play on such a low res on an hdtv ?

Snowdog is correct,sonicuk does not know what he is talking about 1280x768 on a 37" sharp=looooooooooooooooooooooool:eek::eek::eek:
 
1280x768 on a large monitor isnt recommended as for tft screens you have to generally use the one res that is its native res otherwise quality suffers. This is why when you buy a 1080p tft you generally have to make sure your system can run all the games in that res comfortably.

And any 37" tv/tft that doesnt put out 1080p isnt fit for gaming or general pc usage. If your using a console and are a good 3m away or so sitting on a settee or something playing casually then the 37" of yours at 720p is ok because you dont need sharpness at that distance away but for general pc usage and gaming and your tft is half a meter from u or somit then you need it to be in its native res and for such a large screen it has to be capable and ran at 1080p.

1280x720 is recommended generally for non 1080p tvs (not monitors) for console usage etc. As 1280x720 for pc's it is generally a resolution for 19" or lower sized monitor displays. Which is generally only because that is the native res because of the small screens they use.
 
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Oh yes I'm sure I don't know what I'm talking about. If you think 1280x768 is blurry there's definitly something wrong. I play on my PC at that res as my Tv only supports that on Vga (goes up to 1080p through Hdmi which both my Ps3 and 360 are connected through - gasp I own consoles as well as a PC, I guess the Elite will dislike me even more now). The picture is crisp and runs perfect and that's all I need to be able to enjoy my games. Obviously I must have "lower standards" just because I don't see anything wrong with playing at those kind of resolutions on my PC and consoles (which as I'm sure the Elite will have no problem pointing out they are only upscaled to 1080p from lower resolutions).

I waded into battle in this obvouis flamebait thread originally as I couldn't resist pointing out that obviously a powerful rig would look better visually, but there is nothing wrong with playing at console resolutions on your Ps3/360 and implying there is or that they look "crap" or "blurry" is just ridiculous, typical Elistist drivel.
 
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Oh yes I'm sure I don't know what I'm talking about. If you think 1280x768 is blurry there's definitly something wrong. I play on my PC at that res as my Tv only supports that on Vga (goes up to 1080p through Hdmi which both my Ps3 and 360 are connected through - gasp I own consoles as well as a PC, I guess the Elite will dislike me even more now). The picture is crisp and runs perfect and that's all I need to be able to enjoy my games. Obviously I must have "lower standards" just because I don't see anything wrong with playing at those kind of resolutions on my PC and consoles (which as I'm sure the Elite will have no problem pointing out they are only upscaled to 1080p from lower resolutions).

I waded into battle in this obvouis flamebait thread originally as I couldn't resist pointing out that obviously a powerful rig would look better visually, but there is nothing wrong with playing at console resolutions on your Ps3/360 and implying there is or that they look "crap" or "blurry" is just ridiculous, typical Elistist drivel.

I'll clarify this for you.

1280x720 on a 37" screen is going to either be blurry (as that is not the native resolution of the monitor and tft's don't interpole/downscale all that well) or look blocky (because that is the native resolution of the screen, but due to the physical size of the screen the pixel pitch would have to be very big).

These effects are only counter acted by sitting much further away from the screen, as that way your eyes are effectively anti-aliasing the image for you or by applying anti-aliasing.

There is no doubt that 1920x* or higher is required if you sit reasonably close to a large screen to get the crispist [sp?] image possible.
 
I'll clarify this for you.

1280x720 on a 37" screen is going to either be blurry (as that is not the native resolution of the monitor and tft's don't interpole/downscale all that well) or look blocky (because that is the native resolution of the screen, but due to the physical size of the screen the pixel pitch would have to be very big).

These effects are only counter acted by sitting much further away from the screen, as that way your eyes are effectively anti-aliasing the image for you or by applying anti-aliasing.

There is no doubt that 1920x* or higher is required if you sit reasonably close to a large screen to get the crispist [sp?] image possible.

Sonic if you do not understand this then, you sir, should be banned from this forum
 
I waded into battle in this obvouis flamebait thread originally as I couldn't resist pointing out that obviously a powerful rig would look better visually, but there is nothing wrong with playing at console resolutions on your Ps3/360 and implying there is or that they look "crap" or "blurry" is just ridiculous, typical Elistist drivel.

nothing elitest about it, it DOES look worse on low res. further to this if your running your pc games at 720p when your tv supports 1080p (still dont understand why you cant run it at 1080p??) then your not playing at native res and it will look worse also.
 
You don't need HDMI for 1080p for PC, it technically "should" work weather you use VGA or HDMI or DVI. So im not sure why you say you cant run 1920x1080 on your screen if its able to run at that res for console usage which as you pointed out is upscaled.

Also i was only trying to explain the technical aspect Sonic. I wasnt trying to be "elitest".

In your opinion you think 720p is sharp and clear but i bet if you can get 1080p working on your tv it would look a lot sharper running in its native res.

Just out of curiosity what tv are you using, maybe we can help you to get it into 1080p.
 
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Imagine if developers were allowed to use lowlevel code on the lateset and greatest. It would annihilate consoles.

They get so much out of the hardware because of how far they get "under the hood."

can you elaborate on this for the uninitiated? I have a rather simplistic understanding that pc games dont run as well on equivalent hardware because pc games must work on a range of different hardware, i dont actually get 'why'.
 
With my pc, through HDMI it will run at 1080 but the image doesnt fit on the screen i have to run at 1200 to get it to fit properly. Through VGA 1080 works fine. Never managed to figure it out, reason i want HDMI is for easy switching and HD audio.
 
You don't need HDMI for 1080p for PC, it technically "should" work weather you use VGA or HDMI or DVI. So im not sure why you say you cant run 1920x1080 on your screen if its able to run at that res for console usage which as you pointed out is upscaled.

Also i was only trying to explain the technical aspect Sonic. I wasnt trying to be "elitest".

In your opinion you think 720p is sharp and clear but i bet if you can get 1080p working on your tv it would look a lot sharper running in its native res.

Just out of curiosity what tv are you using, maybe we can help you to get it into 1080p.

Some TVs will only accept 720p through VGA, there's nothing (afaik) you can do about this other than changing input method.
 
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