building around a RESERATOR1 V2 Fanless Water Cooling System (w/WB5+)

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After much deliberation i bought as an upgrade...

Intel Core i7 2600k 3.4GHz Socket 1155 8MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor

Asus P8P67 Pro R3 P67 Socket 1155 8 Channel HD Audio ATX Motherboard

Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 XMS3 i5 Memory Kit CL9(9-9-9-24) 1.65V

Im sick to death with the noise of fans, i have the corsair H50 and even that is winding me up...yes, thats how quiet it is my house !!

Im looking at the RESERATOR1 V2 Fanless Water Cooling System with which comes with the following..

100% fanless watercooling unit
Supplied with CPU water block (ZM-WB5 PLUS)
Supplied with VGA water block (ZM-GWB3)
Supplied with anti-corrosion coolant (ZM-G200)
Supplied with quick release couplings and clear tubing

I will need to get an adaptor for the water block to fit my motherboard as it is socket 1155....my burning concern is the aluminium and copper problem..obviously it whats on the inside of the block that is in contact with the fluid but i cant get a definitive answer as to what material is on the inside of ZM-WB5 PLUS, it states.. and here is the link..

http://www.zalman.co.kr/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=342

"Pure Copper (Base), Pure Aluminum (Cover)"..well, whats on the inside ?? clearly the photo on the website shows the contact surface to be polished silver/aluminum or some other plating.

My graphics card which i have also been told in another thread is crap, is an nvidia 9600 GT (does me, i dont play games...yet)..the supplied block for that i am hoping will fit the mounting holes although not stated as compatible on thier website but then nor was thier fanless heatsink but it fitted !!...any advice on compatible water blocks ?

All this is going into a rack mount case in my front room..im am adamant i dont want ANY fans...i only have 1 SSD hard drive in the unit so no heat from that, the only heat will be coming from the GPU and CPU..is it worth looking for a full water block for my graphics card ?..i have the plate covering the ram chips seperatley from the fanless heatsink...i could leave that on maybe ?...or a cheaper upgrade to the grapics card ?
 
You said you're sick of fans. What about fan noise from the PSU? Noise from the pump aswell.

Also that watercooling kit is no way gonna be able to cool your set up. My advice would be to just buy bigger rads so you can have slower spinning fans on them.

My gelid wing 12's spinning around 400-600 and I could only hear them faintly if I put my ear right up against the fans.
 
spleenharvester said:
SSDs can get pretty hot btw, or so I hear.
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Mine is stone cold....

Why would a well respected company like zalman sell a product that cant cool a system ?, as for the psu, that is the quietest part though im looking into adapting it to water cooled.

Water pump noise is barely audible, how quiet is a quiet fan ? what other option do i have ? could the rads and fans be housed outside case ?...what do you recommend as a kit for my set up ?...i could free up a 5.25" drive bay...I WANT SILENCE from my pc lol
 
Op the reserator will not be able to cool the cpu alone at decent temperatures also the block supplied with the kit are awful.

If you wish to do watercooling right you will have to buy all of the parts separate.

spleenharvester said:
SSDs can get pretty hot btw, or so I hear.
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There are no moving parts so it doesn't get very warm
 
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loady said:
Mine is stone cold....

Why would a well respected company like zalman sell a product that cant cool a system ?, as for the psu, that is the quietest part though im looking into adapting it to water cooled.

Water pump noise is barely audible, how quiet is a quiet fan ? what other option do i have ? could the rads and fans be housed outside case ?...what do you recommend as a kit for my set up ?...i could free up a 5.25" drive bay...I WANT SILENCE from my pc lol
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As said, SR-1 rad with low RPM fans (not Noctuas, they are rubbish - I've heard Gentle Typhoons are good). Last time someone tried to WC a PSU on this forum someone ended up with a nasty shock, so just buy a Seasonic X Series instead.

EDIT: Just forget Zalman. Use EK for the blocks and distilled + kill coil for the coolant.

EDIT 2: If you want to watercool your GFX card, I suggest upgrading to a ref. board 460 and an EK full cover. If you don't want to you can use a GPU only block, but you have to provide your own RAM and VRM cooling.
 
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Im loving this input, why is everyone so much against this zalman setup ?,,, i assume you are all hard core gamers ?..im not..i been readin g that the water will never go much above room temp at full tilt..its water, it doesnt answer to air ? to have the expence of WC and then to put fans in,,keep it coming peeps...throw some more setups at me...im looking at £170 already...what better way to spend that money ?
 
loady said:
Im loving this input, why is everyone so much against this zalman setup ?,,, i assume you are all hard core gamers ?..im not..i been readin g that the water will never go much above room temp at full tilt..its water, it doesnt answer to air ? to have the expence of WC and then to put fans in,,keep it coming peeps...throw some more setups at me...im looking at £170 already...what better way to spend that money ?
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Look, the Zalman will be rubbish. Better spending the money on a H50. :p

But in all seriousness, a true WC kit for silence will be around £250-350 (for ultimate silence).

Out of interest, what case do you plan to use?
 
Vinni3 @H|H said:
Look, the Zalman will be rubbish. Better spending the money on a H50. :p

But in all seriousness, a true WC kit for silence will be around £250-350 (for ultimate silence).

Out of interest, what case do you plan to use?
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I already have a H50 in my current setup, its whats lead me onto this project, i can hear the fan when the room is silent and where it is plugged into the cpu socket, everynow and then i get a 3-5 second whooosh, like the fans spun up suddenly..the fans on these are 14cm i beleive as they will be with the SR-1 rads so i cant imagine they will be much more silent.

The case i am using is a Codegen 4U RackMount Case (wont let me link to it as it is on ebyer) and the rad and fan sits behind the front grill you can see in the picture, i had to modify the hdd rack inside but its not a problem as i only have one SSD in there, the three 5.25" bays are taken up by a bluray writer, hot swap bay and a akasa fan controller...which i could ditch for the right reservoir cooling system there is room iside for a pump if need be...my main concern is fan noise as stipulated...this case slides into my cabinet so i only see the front of it...could the rads be ported out of the back of the case and sit face up on top of the cabinet out of sight ?..are there issues with having to longer runs of tubing ?

Im very tempted to just buy the zalman fanless just to see, look, i dont want to cool my milk on it..if it keeps it cooler than my current air cooling and its noiseless then im fine with that...if i dont get on with it i can ditch it and try something else later. Im still very interested in exactly what you would would set up for this, please advise, if i am convinced of the quietness i will purchase if swayed.


PapaLazaru said:
What are you using it for?
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very RARE gaming, maybe only just to see what it can do, i have to do a lot of video editing in the near future and just general usage really..nothing to major, but i like to have more than i need and keep it up the forefront
 
It's impossible to get a silent watercooled pc it can be quiet when you get fans which run at 1000rpm or under, a quiet pump such as the d5 vario and a decent case that can isolate the noise. Passive is possible but requires huge amount of rad space (ran a amd x550 with two 360 & a single and got temps pretty good.)
 
Further reading states the pumps in these are pretty weak and that the towers would ideally need to be level with the pump to perform properly...im swaying away...as for pump noise, i dont think thats an issue ? i have a H50...i cant hear the pump in that at all, i can hear the fan ticking though..come on guys..lets spend some money !!
 
I used a reserator1 v1 before to cool a q6600 clock to 3.2Ghz and when running prime the temps can get up to 72°C with an ambient around 30°C (during summer)
and this is with the cpu alone I doubt you can run both your cpu + gpu succesfully with the reserator1 v2.
You may be able to do it with the reserator 2 check it out, bbc have a review of it running a
Pentium 4 3.0E @ 3.75Ghz (115w tdp) + X800 GTO (48w tdp) = 163w. This proc here has been oc to 3.75Ghz so its power consumption might be a bit higher.Compare this to what you want to cool.
9600gt tdp 95w + Intel Core i7 2600k 3.4GHz tdp 95w = 190w.
If you got the space to let the reserator 2 dissipate heat adequately it might just be possible.

Edited: I mean the reserator 2.
 
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AtaRo said:
I used a reserator1 v1 before to cool a q6600 clock to 3.2Ghz and when running prime the temps can get up to 72°C with an ambient around 30°C (during summer)
and this is with the cpu alone I doubt you can run both your cpu + gpu succesfully with the reserator1 v2.
You may be able to do it with the reserator v2 check it out, bbc have a review of it running a
Pentium 4 3.0E @ 3.75Ghz (115w tdp) + X800 GTO (48w tdp) = 163w. This proc here has been oc to 3.75Ghz so its power consumption might be a bit higher.Compare this to what you want to cool.
9600gt tdp 95w + Intel Core i7 2600k 3.4GHz tdp 95w = 190w.
If you got the space to let the reserator v2 dissipate heat adequately it might just be possible.
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There is a reserator 2 which looks like a normal heating radiator in your house, the cylindrical tower reserator 1 v2 is what i am looking at and is rated as better than the others...the GPU can take quite a bit of heat no ?..currently i have a fanless heatsink on it, you can fry an egg on it but there are no problems..the card is sitting around 60c whilst the cpu is idling at 32c with the H50, other than the fan on the H50 i only have a 8cm exhaust on the rear of case...i dont understand the 'tdp' terminology, how would i work this out with the i7 2600k and my geforce 9600 GT ? thats all that will be getting cooled
 
I read that the Reserator 1 v2 can continually dissipate 150W of heat 24/7 but I suppose this can vary depending on your ambient temperature. I suppose this means that more heat than this can be dissipated in the more short term as it'll take a while for the coolant temperature to rise.

As above the 2600k has a tdp of 95w but this is more a top line figure, it will probably dissipate less than 95w of heat at stock settings and even if it did run too hot you could always downclock a touch. Some sacrifices have to be made to go truly silent.

The 9600GT will only produce it's most heat when in heavy 3D usage and if you don't play games, which you won't be doing much of with a 9600GT anyway. If you do wish to game then you may be better off with a more recent generation passive or light gaming card with a lower TDP and power draw. More recent usually means a smaller manufacture process, less voltage and heat. I think they made a passive 5770 and there's an example of a 6850.

How big a heatsink do you need to cool a top system? Look at Monkey Puzzle's Hush Project
 
The Res2 (rectangular) is better that the Res1 v2 which is better that the Res1

The Reserators are excelent water loops - as long as you use them as designed.
There are not overclocking hardware - But can be if tweeked, doubled up
The are about near silence - the pump on my Res2 is inaudible most of the time (light hum in dead of night)
EVERY serious water cooling fan has owned one, and understands their limitations and brilliance.

They are not for 'gaming' rigs - and are also over priced new.
Second hand they are £50 ish - team it with HIGH FLOW blocks and 3/8 tube and it's so much better that stock.
Personally I moved away from external rads and complete fanless builds as heatpipe cases (mcubed, zalman TNN) do this better for lower spec'ed systems.

Single fan builds are the way forwards imho for a quiet life.
I have an oc'ed 460gtx (850/1900) and a 2500K in my loop.
My PA120.3 has no fans - my psu has no fans - cpu and gpu in loop with a D5@3
ONE case fan.
Mid 50's at load after 24h - which is 20c less that stock cooling (at stock speeds) by removing there fans.

Read Munkey puzzle's and my build logs (black and blue, out of reach) if your intrested in quiet water cooling

One question why a HT quad?
 
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shadowscotland said:
The Res2 (rectangular) is better that the Res1 v2 which is better that the Res1

The Reserators are excelent water loops - as long as you use them as designed.
There are not overclocking hardware - But can be if tweeked, doubled up
The are about near silence - the pump on my Res2 is inaudible most of the time (light hum in dead of night)
EVERY serious water cooling fan has owned one, and understands their limitations and brilliance.

They are not for 'gaming' rigs - and are also over priced new.
Second hand they are £50 ish - team it with HIGH FLOW blocks and 3/8 tube and it's so much better that stock.
Personally I moved away from external rads and complete fanless builds as heatpipe cases (mcubed, zalman TNN) do this better for lower spec'ed systems.

Single fan builds are the way forwards imho for a quiet life.
I have an oc'ed 460gtx (850/1900) and a 2500K in my loop.
My PA120.3 has no fans - my psu has no fans - cpu and gpu in loop with a D5@3
ONE case fan.
Mid 50's at load after 24h - which is 20c less that stock cooling (at stock speeds) by removing there fans.

Read Munkey puzzle's and my build logs (black and blue, out of reach) if your intrested in quiet water cooling

One question why a HT quad?
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thanks..some serious input, im not to up on the abbreviations, i take it you mean why a quad core hyper threading CPU, being the sandy bridge CPU ?..why not ? to be honest i got a bit of money and not to much sense lol, you know the saying 'all the gear, no idea' ? that doesnt quite pertain to me because i like to know why i am buying and doing what i am doing..your input helps a lot in that arena. I was under the impression the SB cpu would enhance the graphics experience or at the very least be more beneficial when i come to do all this video editing i need to do and also for the fact its an upgrade and somewhat future profing..i read up on the reserator 1 v2 and sure it was said by zalman that their reserator1 v2 was better than the reserator2..maybe i am mistaken, im certainly going to look into your build..as one case fan sounds not to bad a compromise..also, a passivley cooled PSU...REALLY ?
 
Yep really and silly expensive for a 550w supply
It's server grade and is the only psu thats warrenty isn't void in a fanless system
(all the other passive psu are designed to use case airflow)

The newest gold rated 80+ psu don't turn their fans on untill you hit 30-50% load so much better.
But I've had my fanless yesico for a good few years now and don't use enought power to swap it for a newer 90% efficency psu.

The advantages of the Res1 ver2 over the Res2 are due to block improvements.
The res2 has 50% more surface area, and a better pump. With the same blocks it's better.

If buying new the Konvekt-O-Matic radient panel systems are best but you need some space.

read lots - silent pc review (SPCR) is a good source, even if they are somewhat anti water over there
 
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