March in London on the 26th?

Just out of interest, why do those who claim that the violent group were a tiny minority of protesters and should be ignored also claim success due to the size of the march, when only a tiny minority of the UK population attended?

Do the actions of a tiny minority of people matter or not?
 
Chris [BEANS];18658196 said:
I hope nobody goes. It's an excuse for people who are poorly informed to throw a tantrum about things not going exactly how they want despite the fact they are unable to offer any realistic alternatives themselves. People who are incredibly privileged to live in such an ordered, liberal society but are too spoiled to see it.

Then the majority will get involved in smashing things, fighting the police (who are suffering harder cuts and reductions than any other public sector employees by far) and showing off.
Then the next day people will pretend it's a minority who give the moral majority a bad name, but when they go to bed at night they'll all know that they're just as bad as all the other childish idiots, they're just lucky they didn't get caught.

Ironically, if people behaved like grown ups, then the money saved on boarding up prior to the 'march', the money saved policing the 'march', the money saved on cleaning up after it, the money saved on the hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of repairs required following the 'march' and the money wasted prosecuting and on precious few occasions imprisoning the thugs and petty vandals, could be better spent bolstering our economy.

I'm not against having a real march as a form of protest, but this country is incapable of doing so without going too far. People self indulgently think that the way they behave is 'right' simply because they aren't getting their own way.
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Havent read through the whole thread but wow you couldnt have summed it up any better...2 weeks prior to it happening.
 
Boris had a good comment in the Telegraph:

He compared himself with the suffragettes. He likened himself, emetically, to Nelson Mandela. He announced that he was 'friends' with absolutely everyone there and that he supported their 'March for the Alternative', and just when I thought he was going to tell us what this might actually be - he vanished! We know that Labour now thinks it politic to accept that they made a disastrous hash of the economy, and indeed even Ed Balls was on telly the other night to say as much. We know that the Labour leadership also accepts that in order to be 'credible' it has to agree that some cuts to state spending are necessary and desirable, and we know that Alistair Darling himself was planning at least 80 per cent of the savings now being proposed by the Coalition. All we need to know is how Labour would make these cuts, and in what ways Labour's programme differs from that of the Government. And if they won't come clean and say what they would cut, then their very presence at the march - and Miliband's speech - is the most disgusting cheat and fraud.
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Don't even get me started on the speech. It was *awful*. Suffragettes, the American civil rights movement, how is a march against government spending cuts anything like either of them? :confused:

Here's to hoping that this the last nail in the coffin for Ed's leadership, he has now moved himself to 'beyond a joke'.
 
Isn't one of Boris' best chums a convicted cheat and fraud? So it's a bit rich for Boris to be complaining about lack of policy from the opposition - after all the Conservatives won the general election despite being light on policy.
 
You're probably speaking about Darius Guppy, or 'Dari' as Boris calls him.

The Tories were even more opportunistic during the previous parliament, than they are being during this one. They are now rightfully talking of how Gordon Brown had butchered our deficit in the run up to the financial crisis, yet David had committed his party (as had his predecessor) to Labour spending. I mean, he got elected leader of his party after his conference speech where he claimed that Gordon was over regulating the financial sector. :rolleyes:
 
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naffa said:
Don't even get me started on the speech. It was *awful*. Suffragettes, the American civil rights movement, how is a march against government spending cuts anything like either of them? :confused:

Here's to hoping that this the last nail in the coffin for Ed's leadership, he's now moved himself to 'beyond a joke'.
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Yet people will vote Labour.

(cf. posts above)
 
meghatronic said:
Yet people will vote Labour.

(cf. posts above)
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Well, I certainly don't think people should decide whether to vote for the Labour party or not, off the back of a single speech. Speaking as somebody that did (for some reason) vote for them at the last election, I can happily say that there is no circumstance under which Ed Miliband could possibly seen as a potential prime minister, and there is no way that I will be voting for him and his party, at least. :p

And I suppose, this speech just adds more fuel to the fire of other underwhelming speeches and poor performances in the Commons. Where's his brother, again?
 
Wouldn't be surprised if "militant element" weren't "placed" by the Government to take the focus off the 250k people who marched against the cuts, the media only seem to be focused on the hooded idiots and not on the legitimate protesters.

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HEADRAT said:
Wouldn't be surprised if "militant element" weren't "placed" by the Government to take the focus off the 250k people who marched against the cuts, the media only seem to be focused on the hooded idiots and not on the legitimate protesters.

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Yes it is odd that whenever there's a dispute involving unions/the left, the Socialist Worker clowns suddenly appear to make things worse for the union movement. Like when they turned up at negotiations between Unite and BA, which played very nicely into the BA CEO's hands.
 
naffa said:
Well, I certainly don't think people should decide whether to vote for the Labour party or not, off the back of a single speech. Speaking as somebody that did (for some reason) vote for them at the last election, I can happily say that there is no circumstance under which Ed Miliband could possibly seen as a potential prime minister, and there is no way that I will be voting for him and his party, at least. :p

And I suppose, this speech just adds more fuel to the fire of other underwhelming speeches and poor performances in the Commons. Where's his brother, again?
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He is the leader of the opposition, the head of the former 'rulers' (for 13yrs) and has wide public support. He is an embarrassment to the party, to politics, to Britain and to humanity! His brother would be owning the public by now.

As much as I dislike labour (:D), a strong opposition is needed - to oppose crazy action and support needed action. It's an abomination that Red Ed ('cut - slower!') turned up at a no cuts (!!!) rally anyway. It's way beyond retarded to compare this to the civil rights movement/apartheid struggle. It's literally one of the worst things he could've said.
 
meghatronic said:
He is the leader of the opposition, the head of the former 'rulers' (for 13yrs) and has wide public support. He is an embarrassment to the party, to politics, to Britain and to humanity! His brother would be owning the public by now.

As much as I dislike labour (:D), a strong opposition is needed - to oppose crazy action and support needed action. It's an abomination that Red Ed ('cut - slower!') turned up at a no cuts (!!!) rally anyway. It's way beyond retarded to compare this to the civil rights movement/apartheid struggle. It's literally one of the worst things he could've said.
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You're preaching to the choir with everything you said there, I totally agree. I literally had my head in my hands when he started his comparisons... Shocking. The man can't make a decent speech at the best of times, but now we're treated to this nonsense. Just think, the party that gave us Tony Blair... :p
 
meghatronic said:
He is the leader of the opposition, the head of the former 'rulers' (for 13yrs) and has wide public support. He is an embarrassment to the party, to politics, to Britain and to humanity! His brother would be owning the public by now.

As much as I dislike labour (:D), a strong opposition is needed - to oppose crazy action and support needed action. It's an abomination that Red Ed ('cut - slower!') turned up at a no cuts (!!!) rally anyway. It's way beyond retarded to compare this to the civil rights movement/apartheid struggle. It's literally one of the worst things he could've said.
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The protest was titled "March for the Alternative" - re-read the first page of this thread if you can't remember what the proposed alternative is. In no way was it a "No Cuts" rally.

Maybe you should take your blinkers off and go to places like Liverpool, Hull, Burnley, Bradford. What's happening there is a form of economic apartheid and quite frankly life in these places is going to be intolerable if the government get their way.
 
Nick Herbert has just been on the box praising the Met and their handling of the demonstrations as well as the violence and laid into armchair critics.

Perhaps that and the excellent job the Met do policing a city of 7 million by night and about 12 million by day with 35,000 officers on the books should be considered before police pay and conditions are slashed as the Coalition intends.
 
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