Cat / Fox Deterrent that actually ******* works!?

wow, you are so cool bro :cool: and it was your 1,337 post too !

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don't ever live near me :)
Hes purposely trying to get a rise out of you don't let him ;). I'm completely on your level and would gladly take a pickaxe handle to some of the ***** that call themselves human here at OcUK.
 
I've recently built a nice veggie patch in my garden so my son and I can learn to grow stuff together and he can get all mucky in the dirt.

Every single day I have to clear cat **** out the veggie patch. I've tried citrus but that hasn't worked so far, today I've bought some high odour pellets to try to break the cycle of the cat keeping fouling.

You can even see the route the cat takes backwards and forwards in the grass.

I'm told blank Cd's work well blowing in the wind on strings/pole to scare them off, might try that next. If that fails I will get something to hook up to the hose pipe and a motion detector.

I would like to be able to shoot them but I fully understand they are someones beloved pet.
 
Where I live I've never just seen a turd in the middle of my grass like a dog would do. Cats find soil, dig a hole and bury it.

If cats actually did that no one would notice it and we would not have this thread, alas it is not the case.

Why is against the law to let a dog foul on public areas and a fineable offence but letting your cat **** anywhere is not?

Hypocrisy and inconsistency, the foundation on which British law is built on.
 
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I've recently built a nice veggie patch in my garden so my son and I can learn to grow stuff together and he can get all mucky in the dirt.

Every single day I have to clear cat **** out the veggie patch. I've tried citrus but that hasn't worked so far, today I've bought some high odour pellets to try to break the cycle of the cat keeping fouling.

You can even see the route the cat takes backwards and forwards in the grass.
How about making a mesh fence to go around your veggie patch, with a lid on top?
 
Not quite, you would have to know for certain it was a feral cat beforehand, not just blast away at anything cat shaped or collarless.
Kill a domestic cat and you would be guilty of committing criminal damage, be charged and probably sued.

It's really not a good idea anyway, a farmer at the back of me was prosecuted for putting out a banned poison after it killed at least one cat. Afterwards a lot of his farm equipment got vandalised and his hay storage has been torched twice now, it must be costing him thousands.
Although it was only one cat, I reckon pet owners tend to think it could have easily been theirs that got killed and react in the same way.

I know people just love talking about shooting things and thinking this makes them look cool and hard, but the reality is that supercool attitude sometimes bites them in the ass and they end up on the wrong side of a group of irrational angry people. Nobody wants to be the village paedophile and nobody wants to be the village cat killer either, you'd be surprised at how quickly such things get talked about and who's willing to seek revenge on someone else's behalf.

It's ironic, as is always the case with bunny hugger types. You talk about people trying to look 'hard' for stating a simple fact in response to your incorrect assertion about the law, yet your responses are full of vitriol about what comeuppance people can receive for doing something entirely legal, or else you change the subject slightly and go on about arson and other criminal offences as though two wrongs make a right. Those people are worse than the guy who accidentally killed the cat; mob mentality and more law breaking (especially when it affects a man's livelihood) are awful crimes. Still, at least they didn't carbomb his children as other animal rights loony-tunes are wont to do.

Nobody in their right mind would kill a pet cat, especially not just for fun. However that doesn't detract from the fact that it's 100% legal to control feral cats lawfully. Not only are there several considerations (distance to residential dwellings, wearing a collar or not, neck musculature etc) but at the end of the day even IF someone accidentally killed a pet AND got caught (highly unlikely when shooting out in the sticks) then it's a simple caution for criminal damage. The penalties for arson and suchlike are infinitely worse.

Your comments about illegal poisons also doesn't relate to the law surrounding vermin control and shooting feral cats whatsoever. I'm still of the opinion that if people didn't let out their cats to maul protected wildlife, cause criminal damage of their own (which their owners are liable for btw) and to end up being run over, then it wouldn't be an issue.

As a dog owner I wouldn't dream of throwing my pet out for 12 hours a day, even though I know they'd enjoy it immensely. Simply because I'm aware of both the damage they could cause, and the risks to their own safety. Cat owners rarely share the same concern, yet are the first to raise merry hell when Tiddles gets chewed by a dog, or run over (or shot).

Personally I only passed comment in this thread for the lulz last night. I don't really care about this discussion or the heated feelings apparently being generated, and as I said we don't get any trouble from cats or foxes due to having the dogs.

As such I'll leave you to enjoy the rest of the thread.
 
How about making a mesh fence to go around your veggie patch, with a lid on top?

Yeah I have to have a 50cm side netting for the carrots but netting the whole thing really would be an answer if the whole idea wasn't to do something together with my son. He's only 20 months and netting it would really be keeping him out as well as the cats :)

I will see how I do with the pellets, hopefully it won't get so drastic I have to get lion poo. :D
 
I imagine that if someone shot a cat it would be burned or dumped somewhere never seen again to avoid prosecution by the irresponsible owners.

Yeah I have to have a 50cm side netting for the carrots but netting the whole thing really would be an answer if the whole idea wasn't to do something together with my son. He's only 20 months and netting it would really be keeping him out as well as the cats :)

I will see how I do with the pellets, hopefully it won't get so drastic I have to get lion poo. :D

You can get electric netting, just put it over soil when your out of the garden and take it off when your using it, don't bother with tat like pellets etc it never works.
 
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my dad had an excellent way to keep cats out the garden.

when you spot a cat in the garden:

walk to door
open quietly
take a breathe
run out screaming like a mad man at said cat

after a few weeks cats stopped coming in our garden.
 
It's ironic, as is always the case with bunny hugger types. You talk about people trying to look 'hard' for stating a simple fact in response to your incorrect assertion about the law, yet your responses are full of vitriol about what comeuppance people can receive for doing something entirely legal
I'm not a bunny hugger, I'm pro fox hunting :)
My assertion wasn't incorrect? you extended it to include feral cats which wasn't under discussion.
I'm not in favour of vigilantes, I'm just pointing out the likely consequences of behaviour that some people on the thread think is cool.
I've had someone attack my cat but I've not done anything in return to them.

I didn't mean to imply that you would choose to shoot a domestic cat, I thought it was clear who my comments were aimed at, my apologies if you felt that meant you :)
 
Yeah I have to have a 50cm side netting for the carrots but netting the whole thing really would be an answer if the whole idea wasn't to do something together with my son. He's only 20 months and netting it would really be keeping him out as well as the cats :)

I will see how I do with the pellets, hopefully it won't get so drastic I have to get lion poo. :D
I should have said something that could be put up and taken down, when you want to get stuck in if you know what I mean.
 
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I have the same issue. Cat **** all over my garden where i was going to grow vegetables, and all over the lawn where my daughter will want to play this summer. It stinks and in those areas are swarms of flies. To say it's beginning to annoy me is an understatement and i cant bear the inane mentality of cat owners like this. When you complain you get some retarded reply along the lines of "awww its my wittle cat, i can't do anything".

I dont pay to maintain my garden so other peoples pets can **** all over it, and the time i do have to spend in my garden i want to upkeep it, not put cat **** into bin bags.

As for "what's the difference between horse manure and cats". Cats are carnivorous so their excrement contains parasites, which amongst other things can cause blindness and death.

I've tried pellets and spray and citrus peel. Nothing works. I even put down holly branches where the go and they just dig it up. Just like they did on £50 worth of plants i put down and the apple tree bought for my daughter when she was born that i caught some cat from down the road ripping to pieces.

Last resort will be that lion pellet stuff and if that doesn't work i'll just have to rip the beds up and put down rocks. Or barbed razor wire. Can't decide yet.
 
I'm not a bunny hugger, I'm pro fox hunting :)
My assertion wasn't incorrect? you extended it to include feral cats which wasn't under discussion.
I'm not in favour of vigilantes, I'm just pointing out the likely consequences of behaviour that some people on the thread think is cool.
I've had someone attack my cat but I've not done anything in return to them.

I didn't mean to imply that you would choose to shoot a domestic cat, I thought it was clear who my comments were aimed at, my apologies if you felt that meant you :)

Just a final note to acknowledge your post and say fair play to you. Apologies for the misunderstanding, you came across rather differently earlier but I accept this was unintentional. Cheers. :)
 
Jesus, you don't contradict yourself much do you :(.
Yeh it's an awkward stance :o but foxes damage peoples livelihoods and will kill everything in a pen. Cats mostly kill wild birds and are just an annoyance.
Shooting or poisoning a fox is variable in its efficiency, but a fox killed by hounds is 100% dead and suffers about the same degree to a death though disease. They are going to be killed by farmers either way, I'm just being pragmatic about which death they have.

I think of animals as resources, a cat is a resource just like any other animal, but you don't need to shoot it to get rid of it.

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To those that suffer from cat poo, find the owners and hassle them to provide litter trays, then insist they keep their cats in after feeding so they have to use them. Flinging the poo back in their garden is reasonable IMO.
 
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Yeh it's an awkward stance :o but foxes damage peoples livelihoods and will kill everything in a pen. Cats mostly kill wild birds and are just an annoyance.

Cats attack peoples pets too, rabbits, chickens and guinea pigs running in the garden, fish in the pond, birds being fed etc people have a right to defend their animals with appropriate force.
 
Cats attack peoples pets too, rabbits, chickens and guinea pigs running in the garden, fish in the pond, birds being fed etc people have a right to defend their animals with appropriate force.
Reasonable force yes, shooting a cat is not reasonable force.
 
Why is against the law to let a dog foul on public areas and a fineable offence but letting your cat **** anywhere is not?

And if you hit a dog you have to report it but a cat you dont?


The same reason as if you run over a dog you can sue the owner for damage to your car, but you cant If a cat damages your car.

You can be reasonably expected to control the actions of a dog, therefore stopping it from damaging other peoples property, or ******* on their lawn.

The law doesnt recognise the cat as an animal that you can be reasonably expected to control the actions of

Simple.
 
Tried everything with cats, they are vermin, from water to chucking golf balls at them even removing soil in back garden and just having grass and flags, so they move to the front.

One day...one day

if you believe that then dispose of them in a humane way.

dont be suprised if you are taken to court for cruelty to animals though
 
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