Are there any benefits to energy drinks when doing weights at the gym?

No sawce, it just strikes me as non-optimal considering that you will be nutrient depleted for a good while even after you've eaten post workout. I could be wrong. Also, the way I train means hitting some pretty tough percentages of 1rm for quite a few reps so things like nutrition during the day can be the tipping point between completing the sets or not.

It's one of those things where I'm not entirely certain that I'm correct in my thinking, but it isn't worth the possible negatives to do it.

What would the benefit of fasted weights training?
 
The workouts were fairly basic whole-body sessions: 3 x 8 in seven movements such as bench press, overhead press, curls and leg press.

One of the sessions (F) were performed on an empty stomach after an overnight fast.

The other session (B) was performed in the fed state. Subjects were given a breakfast of 722 kcal composed of 85% carbs, 11% protein and 4% fat, and training was initiated 90 minutes after the meal.

After the weight training session, both groups rested for 4 hours. At the one- and four-hour marks, muscle biopsies and blood tests were obtained . Participants were also also given a recovery drink to sip each hour during the rest period.

Results revealed that the F session had twice as high levels of p70s6k in comparison to the B when measured at the one-hour mark post-workout. Other myogenic transcription factors were also higher at this point, though not quite as pronounced as p70s6k. At the four-hour mark, the differences between the two groups had evened out.
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Weight training activates enzymes and switches on genes that up regulates protein synthesis in muscles. Out of these signalling mechanisms, the phosphorylation, "activity" plainly speaking, of p70s6 kinase may serve as an indicator of muscle growth, along with other myogenic transcription factors.
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I am interested in to how really heavy training 90/95%RM would work with fasted training. Providing you're eating well theoretically there shouldn't be much difference. Having trained fasted myself a lot of it is a mental barrier in that your intelligence is telling you one thing but your body is going against the grain and still performing.

You're conditioned currently to train in a fed state at a certain time and in a certain way. When you change any of the variables it will take the mind & body time to adjust. Seeing this through is where most people fall at the first hurdle.

I trained 3/4 day splits for the majority of my entire time I've been training. HST is the first full body routine I've done. When I started it felt like the toughest thing on earth, now in my second cycle (12th total week) it's a walk in the park. If I were to isolate my chest or back next session I'd struggle as I'm just not currently conditioned for that high a volume or intensity on just one muscle. Just like if I were to try and run a marathon I'd fail horrifically.

I think what I'm trying to get at is that it's all relative and you might be surprised. Training fasted is, with my logic, just like training for a marathon or to be able to isolate a muscle group for an hour at a time. It takes a while but once you're conditioned for it it no longer becomes an issue.
 
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I agree, just doesn't seem that your body would be in the best position to work out at an optimum level tbh.
 
Interesting links those.
Though surely fasted means less 'fuel' to train on, so less energy to work out with. This, logically, would mean that you won't lift as effectively.
 
Morba said:
Interesting links those.
Though surely fasted means less 'fuel' to train on, so less energy to work out with. This, logically, would mean that you won't lift as effectively.
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Though you've put all the fuel in the evening before? And then slept so it's fully digested and usable...

All the calories/nutrients/vits & minerals are all still in you. Just they're going in at different times. Your body is just working in 'arrears' as it were.

I'm not training fasted at the moment. I break my fast at 12 with usually some stuffed pittas, 1/1 scoops oats & whey and an apple. Then I don't eat until after I finish training which was 6:30PM today. But when I did I ate:

2 scoops whey, 1 scoop oats
4 scrambled eggs
1 bowl cornflakes with SS milk
Roast Dinner
2 scoops MP bedtime extreme.

I ate all that in 90 minutes. I feel so stuffed and satisfied it's unreal. I also set several PB's today including: (all for 3 sets x 5 reps)

Squats: 142.5KG
Bench: 112.5KG
Wide grip chins: +17.5KG
Dips: +42.5KG
Shrugs: 140KG

I can lift heavy (for me) despite having barely eaten that day in comparison to how I used to train and eat. Which would be in 7/8 small feedings between 7am and 10pm. Furthermore I feel completely fine afterwards.

I think it really does come down to what you've conditioned yourself for.
 
Eca did nothing for me after first few. Same with t5's.
I seem to be generally intolerant of stims lol
 
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