The BMW M3 CSL Reborn

Morba · 1 Apr 2011 at 21:25

DM said:
Its nothing short of amazing that a colour that **** could actually exist.

Lol! Well put

Gaygle · 1 Apr 2011 at 22:00

I think the LCI E90 is the best of the bunch. I'm a huge fan of it! However, i will admit, that's a bad colour combo :/

IAmATeaf · 2 Apr 2011 at 11:17

The pics do make the car look crap, for that colour combo the tints and the black rims makes the car look weird and this is from a total fan of the E90 M3.

hurfdurf · 2 Apr 2011 at 17:27

BigglesPiP said:
My sauce shows:
E90: 1,781Kg
E92: 1,680Kg

That wrong or did you fail to read my post?

Either way it still weighs more than the moon.

Whats your source and what's Foxs source? Last time this kind of thing came up Fox disingenuously corrected someone by comparing his own measurements for his car against the manufacturers of another car ignoring his own cars manufacturors data. It was one of his biggest shameful moments and left me deeply disappointed in him.

[TW]Fox · 2 Apr 2011 at 19:00

My source is BMW.

Torch [P4] · 2 Apr 2011 at 20:29

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/mseries/m3coupe/2007/allfacts/downloads/catalogue.html

DM · 2 Apr 2011 at 20:43

bad colour
stale wheels
gangster tintzs
**** car

get a Jag, a proper persons car

Sin_Chase · 2 Apr 2011 at 20:52

Looks gash. Utterly gash.

Cookeh · 2 Apr 2011 at 21:43

Excuse me while I find somewhere to throw up....

Someone please sack the designer!

Jay · 2 Apr 2011 at 22:13

Is it me, or does that paint job look pretty poor?

[TW]Fox · 2 Apr 2011 at 23:02

Torch [P4];18814885 said:
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/mseries/m3coupe/2007/allfacts/downloads/catalogue.html

Can't open link on this device but that looks like the US one to me.

BigglesPiP · 3 Apr 2011 at 03:03

[TW]Fox;18815746 said:
Can't open link on this device but that looks like the US one to me.

It's the German one with no extras, a 68kg driver, 90% full tank and 7kg of luggage.

E92: 1655kg or 1675kg with the DCT gearbox.
E90: 1680kg or 1700kg.

We could argue about the less than 5% difference between BMW figures and other sources till the cows come home (I use Parkers, then Carfolio, then Wikipedia for this sort of rubbish). But the point remains that the E9* M3 is disappointingly fat and a lightweight version would probably be better backed off the E92.

Tax Evader · 3 Apr 2011 at 07:47

DM said:
bad colour
stale wheels
gangster tintzs
**** car

get a Jag, a proper persons car

The car will never be released with tints like that. BMW often do this on 'concepts' simply to hide the interior for whatever reason (eg, incomplete).

[TW]Fox · 3 Apr 2011 at 11:23

BigglesPiP said:
But the point remains that the E9* M3 is disappointingly fat

I don't think that point remains at all. 1680kg is not exactly hugely fat for a reasonably luxurious 420bhp V8 Saloon car.

Lightweight is relative - if a CSL is lighter than the standard car, then great. It doesnt mean that anything heavier than an Elise cannot be called Lightweight in comparison to its base car.

The E46 M3 CSL was almost universally acclaimed as an excellent car and nobody disputed it's lightweight status yet it weighs more than your Alfa 156.

mjt · 3 Apr 2011 at 16:57

Am I the only one who really likes the M3 saloon? Fast saloons pwn

mrk · 3 Apr 2011 at 17:02

This one is ugly as sin yes, a normal m3 saloon is less so but still nothing on the coupe.

[TW]Fox · 3 Apr 2011 at 17:10

Khaaan! said:
This one is ugly as sin yes, a normal m3 saloon is less so but still nothing on the coupe.

It has exactly the same body as a normal M3 saloon! It's just in a naff colour. I doubt you will be forced to order it only in that colour.

Begbie · 3 Apr 2011 at 17:22

So the conculsion is...

its ugly, not much lighter, so therefore pretty crap?

[TW]Fox · 3 Apr 2011 at 17:27

Lets pretend it's silver. There, it's no longer visually any different to the M3 saloon and we can talk about the concept not the unfortunate choice of paint colour.

BigglesPiP · 3 Apr 2011 at 21:56

I think this may be a car more born of BMW Marketing than the M devision. There's enough people who will be conned into thinking it's an uncompromising focussed driving machine, which the Old CSL pretty much was.

Yes it was slightly heavier than my 156, but I have a smaller motor and no RWD, Alfa put effort into making the 156 light by using aluminium in places like engine mounts, the engine and the suspension, the seat frames are magnesium. Yet if it were RWD the 156 would weigh more then the original CSL. I am hoping that in a couple of years I'm in a position to buy one.

This thing isn't that. But people are hailing is as such. Also I quite like the colour.