Anyway. Android 2.3 browser loads Apple.com quite a bit faster than iPhone 4's browser. I found this quite funny
As Miss Android you would.
Anyone else feel freaked out when going into an apple store?
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As Miss Android you would.
The 3G has a terrible camera, its almost not worth using much of the time.
There are HUGE amounts of useful apps, yeah, you dont NEED them but many of them do useful things.
The games aren't far off DS quality, many of them are equal if not better.
And you get everything in all in one device - Games, Camera, Phone, Map services, Internet browsing, etc.
The battery life is not that bad, especially not on the iPhone 4.
No one I know uses them for anything actually useful. They might as well stayed with what they had and had a phone that didn't need charging twice a day
Define 'useful'.
I find having a high quality camera with me at all times pretty useful, I find having a phone with me at all times useful too. I find being able to go on the internet and access email useful as well. Its also nice to have games available all of the time if you have to wait somewhere, or to be able to browse on here for example.
It is not a scam. You get quite a lot more technology with the iPhone inside the same amount of space, that is better tech, and its going to cost more money.
It costs Apple approx. £190 just to build an iPhone 4. So they aren't ever going to be selling it for £140 are they?
Anyway. Android 2.3 browser loads Apple.com quite a bit faster than iPhone 4's browser. I found this quite funny
I highly doubt that with the new Nitro Java update. It also depends what phone too, the problem with Android is that they all operate differently due to the vast amount of different phones there are.
On the new dual core Android phones it probably will be faster, but currently? Doubt it.
I've said it before in another thread but I don't get all this smart phone rubbish.
My sister game me her old Iphone 3G and although it's nice and has a great screen it took me 5 minutes to wonder what the hell people see in them.
Apart from one camera depth of field app and a decent weather app, I've not found anything worth bothering with. Even when I look at others peoples Iphones they have nothing but flash type games on them, nothing of any real use. The odd calendar app. I went through the Iphone app thread start to finish and 90% of it is just games, **** all useful apps.
My crew room at work has Sony Xperia users, Samsung Galaxy, HTC desire and Iphone users and all anyone does on them is play games that aren't even as good as DS games. Plus everyone has them on charge at some point due to the shoddy battery life on them all.
No one I know uses them for anything actually useful. They might as well stayed with what they had and had a phone that didn't need charging twice a day
I have an iPhone 4. I frequently use it to:
- listen to music, as in use it as an ipod for several hours a day
- browse the web / ocuk when not near a pc
Other less frequent but notable uses:
- using it as a chromatic guitar tuner
- using it to find where I am / for directions
- facebook when on the move
- jotting down notes / gym recordings
- taking pictures with a fairly decent camera
- browsing the news
Some of these things you could do without having a smartphone I'm sure, but the ease of use in which you can do it is fantastic. No fiddly menus, no complex configurations, it just works - its so user friendly that if you think there is a way in which it should work, it will work that way.
Did I have to pay a premium for it? Absolutely, it is an expensive piece of kit. But I'm totally convinced it was worth it.
As Miss Android you would.
Well I use all 3 mobile platforms regularly but Android gives me the power!
Vector rendering in Google Maps 5+ for example with free turn by turn satnav and traffic updates + autorerouting <-- that alone makes the bulk of my travels more efficient.
Get free sat nave with turn by turn navigation and route updates with apple. Android offers nothing more except customisability, instability, lower quality apps and games, better budget end, flash, usb and sd cards.High end is priced practically the same. So it's swings. And roundabouts you get a lot of negatives for positives that won't be used by most users.
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Yet none of the competeing markets have been able to come in cheaper than Apple, its pretty well known the profit on the iPads etc are actually quite small.
And All i can say is your jsut not suited to a smartphone of any kind if you can find no practical uses in ANY of the thousands of Apps avilable.
This doesn't apply any more. It did once, but everyone stated the reasons why, it was a new platform with a growing market.now it has grown and developed and has overshadowed iPhone sales and userbase in the States and in Europe (according to the mobile research companies, Google it) and the apps themselves have improved considerably.
I can't speak for manufacturer customised phones based on stability but AOSP based devices are perfectly stable and fast and offer just as good an experience as an iPhone.
What satnav solution does iPhone offer that's on par with Google's navigation? I've not seen one that's as fast or as detailed and accurate as Google's own which uses realtime info instead of preloaded POIs and so on and I've used a lot of nav apps, both standalone and mobile.
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Once Google get their act together and sweep away the malware and all the copyright infringing apps then I'll take their effort more seriously.
It just hasn't go look at apps, big companies have only produced free apps for iPhone. I've had both only just changed back to iPhone this month. The app support is still not there. It doesn't matter how many apps you have from independents, it's the big companies they need and that just hasn't happened yet.
Off the top of my head ones I've wanted or used
O2
Vodafone
Digiguide
BBC news
None are available on android, at least not official and serverly reduced. That's not even looking at things like banks, magazines and such like. Can add natwest to the list. I couldn't even find a calendar with custom colour events on google despite trying loads and asking several times in the app thread.
Off the top of my head ones I've wanted or used
O2
Vodafone
Digiguide
BBC news
None are available on android, at least not official and serverly reduced. That's not even looking at things like banks, magazines and such like. Can add natwest to the list. I couldn't even find a calendar with custom colour events on google despite trying loads and asking several times in the app thread.
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The only reason Android does so well sales wise is because it is available on phones that range from £50-500, where as the iPhone new prices are only in the £500 price band. You know that, but you're saying this anyway
Those things do still apply unfortunately, Android phones are always having problems and the app store is still far, far behind in many respects.
Because its Apple, they dont do 'cheaper'
In fairness you get 16GB or 32GB, that is technically two models at £100 price difference.
And why would they do a cheaper one? They dont need to really do they? Even though there has been talk of it, I dont think its likely.
Because its Apple, they dont do 'cheaper'
In fairness you get 16GB or 32GB, that is technically two models at £100 price difference.
And why would they do a cheaper one? They dont need to really do they? Even though there has been talk of it, I dont think its likely.
Well they do need to at some point as they're currently not catering to a segment of the market that the competition is!
Even a "cheap" iPhone 4 contract doesn't exist whereas you can get a fairly high end Android phone on a cheap contract easily.
Yeah it is swings and roundabouts but I feel it's more a case of some people downing Android because you actually have to do a bit more leg work when you get the phone and start looking at apps and customisation and so on whereas with the iPhone the legwork is done for you, you just tap tap tap and you're away.
I like a bit of both but I choose legwork over anything else but that's just me liking to have control over every part of the technology I use on a daily basis.
Many others here are the same if you care to just glance at the mobile phone forum.
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But people who video themselves for youtube are all that sort of person - look at me's, need attention, need fame etc... that wont be the average Apple person, its the **** end of the market... just like for example people who have to commentate on their computer games, video it and upload it. Cant remember this blokes name, but he seems to have a fanbase for doing COD/Minecraft etc films.... why? Not because its a review or something useful about the game, its about him showing off his headshots and then crowing about going to the cinema or eating some Nachos later with his mates.
Ive waffled but the point is, the majority of Apple purchasers do so for the product, not the name or the opportunity to brag about their cool new gizmo.
That's one reason, I don't want to flash, root when I get a phone. I don't want apps to crash or even not run as the hardware is different from one phone to another. Is android rubbish, no far from it. It was nice to use, it just had more downsides than apple. Problem is to many fanboys/haters on both sides rather than just looking at pros and cons of each and selecting one on your own criteria.
This is a computer forum though, not many people want to do leg work and when they say they want to customise, they mean change app icons and backgrounds that you can do on any modern phone.
The main reason as said stopping apple is no budget versions, but they don't care they have the backing of companies and make huge profits. Opening it up could even lower their reputation as well as stability both os and apps. You can't reduce cheap parts lied memory as that saves next to no money.
This is a computer forum though, not many people want to do leg work and when they say they want to customise, they mean change app icons and backgrounds that you can do on any modern phone.
The main reason as said stopping apple is no budget versions, but they don't care they have the backing of companies and make huge profits. Opening it up could even lower their reputation as well as stability both os and apps. You can't reduce cheap parts lied memory as that saves next to no money.
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Apple have never really worried much about catering to the low end segments of various markets. They like to stay at the high end and I cant see that changing much.
I really like Android, you know that, but it is still not up to the iPhone standard in many regards and to be fair you can do nearly everything you can on an Android phone with it anyway. A lot of the Android gimmicks and widgets are things the majority of people dont even care about, as I've explained before.
If you simply love tweaking but want all the iPhone benefits, you can Jailbreak which is admittedly slightly more hassle than modifying an Android phone and then you can have widgets and all the things you've got on your phone right now, minus the Google Sat Nav, but there are perfectly fine ones for the iPhone, free or otherwise (and they dont need a data connection which seems to bother a lot of people).
Android is not yet a complete package, certain aspects of it are but is much further behind than you seem to think when it comes to the big picture.
Having said that, have you decided between the Sensation or the SGS2 yet?
Yeah, you meant that people here are more likely to want to modify their phones etc. Which they are.
It's not just on this forum either, every forum where there's a "post your mobile/desktop/whatever" thread is the same as our one here. Heck even SA/Joe Rogan forums where a lot of the people aren't as up there with tech as most on here are the same as well and they're more Average Joe than those of us on here.
Unless you meant what Robbo posted above, in which case your wording was quite poor