***SPOILERS*** Football 16-21 Apr 2010/2011
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sorry I dont agree with that at all - there were so many City players dotted around Utd, they were never that safe
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Carrick no more lost it than Berbatov did.
It's a team performance, the team was **** and the team lost it.
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Carrick's played decently in the few games prior to this and apart from the horrendous and obvious mistakes that have been covered, I actually thought he was playing well prior to the goal.
Agree with whoever it was that mentioned Park doesn't know when to release the ball by the way, I actually was thinking of it today as he does hold the ball just a second or two too much and generally either closes off all of his options or outright loses possession. Today wasn't the first time I noticed it either, seems to be quite a problem of his.
Agree with whoever it was that mentioned Park doesn't know when to release the ball by the way, I actually was thinking of it today as he does hold the ball just a second or two too much and generally either closes off all of his options or outright loses possession. Today wasn't the first time I noticed it either, seems to be quite a problem of his.
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hahahah, I can't wait for Piers Morgan to give Rio some stick!!
What a poor semi final, the quality from both teams was pretty terrible. Personally I can't have too many complaints. MU were awful for the most part but I thought most of the team looked very tired, especially in the 2nd half. Which is understandable. If I was to be super critical, I guess you could ask questions of some of the selections. I am not convinced Rio was 100% and although Valencia has performed minor miracles of late, it should not be forgotten how long he was out for. Likewise for Park.
I also thought Scholes was clearly struggling as soon as City started pressing and raising their tempo, horrendous tackle aside, leaving him on was a mistake.
But Anderson looked very sharp when he came on at least and could prove important in the other two competitions.
City were not great but deserved the win, so congrats
I also thought Scholes was clearly struggling as soon as City started pressing and raising their tempo, horrendous tackle aside, leaving him on was a mistake.
But Anderson looked very sharp when he came on at least and could prove important in the other two competitions.
City were not great but deserved the win, so congrats
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What makes me almost sick is, he cost £5mil, and Wenger had supposedly tracked him for YEARS. There was talk for several seasons of us making a bid, and frankly when he joined City we could have easily had him come to Arsenal instead. Solid, rarely injured, completely reliable, brilliant in the air centre back, that cost less than Squillaci or Kos, who gets goals and is tough as nails with a long career still to go.
Great call deciding not to go for him Wenger, great call. At £5mil we could have got him and moved him on at a profit if it came down to it. Not to mention he can slot in as a defensive midfielder if/when required
Frank, Carrick has in NO WAY had 2 outstanding games in the past 10 days, he had one good pass for a Giggs goal, and frankly without a superb touch it wouldn't have been a great pass. Didn't watch a huge amount of the midweek game but meh.
Its not the mistakes, its the boring pointless passing, his almost total inability to make a tackle, he's weak, he's poor in the air, offensively his one shot was on target, but right at the keeper with little power. What did he bring to the team apart from the massive mistakes, really nothing at all.
What the hell happened, half the world has switched to 4-5-1 largely to use 3 crap midfielders to do the job two good midfielders used to do better. Now days a good game is just not standing out for an epic mistake that costs a game.
Honestly these days I think Carrick is beyond crap, theres really three things a player can offer on the pitch, a lot of help defensively, a lot of help going forwards, or at least a heck of a work rate and making life difficult for the other players to effect the game, he doesn't do any of the three any more.
Frankly I'm happy, I don't hate Utd, I really don't, I don't love them either. But this Utd team, I think anyone winning the title this year is a bit embarassing, maybe Arsenal/Utd should share it in a joint second rather than sully the name of the cup with a "winner" from this season, the idea that Utd could win a treble, playing so badly so often just makes me sad for the EPL frankly.
I'm not a huge fan of the way City have gone about building their squad, but find it no different, 100mil a year in wages and 50mil transfers for a decade, or 500mil transfers in three seasons instead, different, not really. It will be good to see a little more variety in FA cup finalists, and spread the league and the various cups around to different clubs.
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Ok can't argue with that point, I think there is a shout for the Chelsea midfield being not what they used to be.
The problem with Utd today was that Berbatov was Isolated. 1 up front only works with support from a man behind or from the wings. There was nothing breaking from behind and Carrick didn't hold the ball to play it to Nani or Valencia.
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He had the ball under control and could have just put his foot through it or cleared it out to the wings instead of playing a pass to Carrick who was under as much pressure as he was. It was a poor decision.
He's won more medals recently than anyone in an arsenal shirt so he cant be that crap
If you didnt watch the mid-week game than Im not sure at all how you can comment at all in regards to it
He was also responsible for tackling Drogba in dangerous positions (at SB) on a few occasions apart from supplying that pass to Giggs that ended in the goal, he was also widely credited with a good game at OT too
If you didnt watch the mid-week game than Im not sure at all how you can comment at all in regards to it
He was also responsible for tackling Drogba in dangerous positions (at SB) on a few occasions apart from supplying that pass to Giggs that ended in the goal, he was also widely credited with a good game at OT too
You have a fair point about the Chelsea midfield - but they are still dangerous as a team (as who ever found out today lol)
Totally agree about the isolation remark - still think Chicharito should have started with Berba coming on to assist in the 2nd half, i think that would have worked a lot better, and put much more pressure on Kompany et al from the start. Nani was pretty quiet today, he didnt get a lot of the ball but he let it go to nothing when he did get it a few times
Dont think I ever disagreed with you that it was a poor decision from OShea to pass to Carrick in the first place - certainly didnt mean too anyway
All I meant in my previous point to you was that there were enough City players in that part of the pitch (where VDS's clearance landed) that put Utd back under pressure immediately even though OShea got the ball quite quickly
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This is why rooney wants to leave. The team without him is total GAK. no quality. L
ok at Valencia? awful.
Yes i know the korean scored past chelsea but he is certainly better off the ball than on it and he showed that today, a tight game where what we needed was some quality possession..
Rooney said he didnt want to haul UTD to another load of medals well, without him we dont stand a chance.
ok at Valencia? awful. Yes i know the korean scored past chelsea but he is certainly better off the ball than on it and he showed that today, a tight game where what we needed was some quality possession..
Rooney said he didnt want to haul UTD to another load of medals well, without him we dont stand a chance.
This is why rooney wants to leave. The team without him is total GAK. no quality. L
Yes i know the korean scored past chelsea but he is certainly better off the ball than on it and he showed that today, a tight game where what we needed was some quality possession..
Rooney said he didnt want to haul UTD to another load of medals well, without him we dont stand a chance.
Valencia and Nani looked pants because they didnt have the ball and when they took up good positions Utd were too slow t get the ball to them. We never attacked or counter attacked with any great conviction.
Supposedly the Balotelli/Ferdinand/Anderson bust-up started when Balotelli taunted the Utd fans (ala Neville vs Liverpool) at the final whistle which led to Anderson pushing him in the back and Ferdinand chasing after him. If true, I'm shocked Balotelli didn't react considering he's a nutter.
No way he could have played today - but it would have been nice to see what Giggs could have done in today's game.
The main problem with Utd is their limited choices in the centre - with one or two decent additions in the middle of the park (a box to box and a creative AM) , defence is pretty sound in general and Rooney and Chicharito can work together for years (but the choices when one or both of these are unavailable need to be improved - Berba has done well this season, but doesnt work the defence alone enough to make him worth while keeping - and he isnt consistant enough in his scoring for Utd either)
a lot of Utd's attacking play was pretty ponderous today, and they never play well like that - Nani/Evra/ Valencia would rush up the field to just before the City box, and then stop because no Utd player was with them in a good position.
The main problem with Utd is their limited choices in the centre - with one or two decent additions in the middle of the park (a box to box and a creative AM) , defence is pretty sound in general and Rooney and Chicharito can work together for years (but the choices when one or both of these are unavailable need to be improved - Berba has done well this season, but doesnt work the defence alone enough to make him worth while keeping - and he isnt consistant enough in his scoring for Utd either)
a lot of Utd's attacking play was pretty ponderous today, and they never play well like that - Nani/Evra/ Valencia would rush up the field to just before the City box, and then stop because no Utd player was with them in a good position.
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Fair enough. It was a bad kick, fortunately it doesn't happen too much with VdS though.