Poll: Royal Engagement

Do you care about the royal wedding?

  • Yes, it'll be a great national occasion

    Votes: 204 19.5%

  • Yes, but only for the bank holiday

    Votes: 218 20.9%

  • I'm indifferent

    Votes: 140 13.4%

  • I don't really care for it.

    Votes: 157 15.0%

  • What a waste of public money - sod them

    Votes: 205 19.6%

  • Pancake.

    Votes: 121 11.6%
  • Total voters
    1,045
MotherMayI said:
As soon as I posted that I knew somebody would mention that. Lets put it in to perspective:

The royal family costs us £41.5m/year. The royal wedding itself is costing $48m. In addition to that the additional public holiday will supposedly cost the country around $10/bn, although I'm not really sure where the site I'm reading gets that figure from.

Regardless, they are all very substantial sums of money. Buckingham Palace only earns around £7m/year in tourism revenue. Even if all of the royal-related tourist attractions pull in more than that per year as a whole, I cannot imagine it is by a substantial amount - Certainly not by enough to justify an utterly undemocratic head of state and an entirely outdated system of privelage.
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i agree **** the queen and the rest of the royals, time to end their leaching off the taxpayer.
 
Westyfield2 said:
Not having a street party.

I'll be watching it with a bottle of bubbly, then go out for a blat as the roads should be nice and quiet!
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Drink then go for a drive?

Responsible ! :D


I have to travel straight through London on that day, what a joke. an extra Million people to get in my way :)
 
The old argument about "the monarchy cost us £xxx to maintain" is ******. The queen gives the income from pretty much all of her estate to the government. That is a fair amount of money. For example, did you know a fair old chunk of the shoreline between high and low tide belongs to the crown? That's a fairly hefty income from moorings and fishfarms etc.
In 1760, George III reached an agreement with the Government over the estate. The Crown Lands would be managed on behalf of the Government and the surplus revenue would go to the Treasury. In return the King would receive a fixed annual payment – what we call today the Civil List.

Tourism is only a very small part of the income generated by the royals.

Still don't agree with the privilege/hierarchy setup tho.
 
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MrMoonX said:
i agree **** the queen and the rest of the royals, time to end their leaching off the taxpayer.
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The thing is, the UK doesnt actually have any other rallying banner for people to get behind. I mean, you say national identity to an american and they do a recitation while saluting the flag. Say it to an englishman and he will go home to his castle and have a cup of tea.

So what do you suggest we rally behind if its not the royals?
 
chameleon said:
In 1760, George III reached an agreement with the Government over the estate. The Crown Lands would be managed on behalf of the Government and the surplus revenue would go to the Treasury. In return the King would receive a fixed annual payment – what we call today the Civil List.
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Generally the people that advocate getting rid of the monarchy also advocate taking all of their land and property too.
 
Theophany said:
This should be interesting. Please do explain.
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I don't need to explain anything - my point is quite obvious. Unless MrMoonX is a billionaire and someone whom tourists flock to see. And occupies as significant a place in our government/society. And works tirelessly year on year.
 
meghatronic said:
I don't need to explain anything - my point is quite obvious. Unless MrMoonX is a billionaire and someone whom tourists flock to see. And occupies as significant a place in our government/society. And works tirelessly year on year.
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i fail to see how the queen works tirelessly, as already stated above the tourism income is loads less than the civil list, which she and her worthless family get from the taxpayers just because they are born into a certain family. In reality the queen contributes nothing to society, she doesnt even pay tax.

Explain that if the queen contributes so much to society exactly how she has affect your life, i bet that you cant because the queen and the worthless royals dont do anything for society in general, other than leech off our hard earned money
 
RDM said:
Even the most hardened republican normally acknowledges the hard work that is done by the Queen and other members of the royal family.
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What has republicanism vs. imperialism got to do with it? I acknowledge they make state visits, sure, but that is part of their remit. The intrinsic value of them is up for debate, especially when you consider the questionable list of contacts certain members of the family keep.

meghatronic said:
I don't need to explain anything - my point is quite obvious. Unless MrMoonX is a billionaire and someone whom tourists flock to see. And occupies as significant a place in our government/society. And works tirelessly year on year.
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Great line of religious argument you have there. This is my point, but evidence and reasoning be damned! :rolleyes:

I've never seen any evidence, let alone convincing evidence, that supports your line of argument. The cost of the royal family to the taxpayer is phenomenal, how much of the monetary gain can be attributed either entirely or partly to their continued existence?

Their 'significant' place in our government is utter bunkum - the Queen's role as monarch in governance is purely ceremonial, the royal assent is a ceremony purely by virtue of the fact that as Queen it is expected she has a role in the periphery of governance. This is elementary political science and British history, so please, pull the other one.

BunnyKillBot said:
Good luck getting any excitement out of this one, unless you find stating the obvious to be of significant comedic worth?
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Pardon? I don't see what is so obvious on either side of the argument, although both sides claim their argument is obvious.
 
MrMoonX said:
i fail to see how the queen works tirelessly, as already stated above the tourism income is loads less than the civil list, which she and her worthless family get from the taxpayers just because they are born into a certain family. In reality the queen contributes nothing to society, she doesnt even pay tax.
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"In 1992, The Queen volunteered to pay income tax and capital gains tax, and since 1993 her personal income has been taxable as for any other taxpayer."

She also pays council tax.

In fact, she pays more than you - therefore, Ad hominem aside, you're more "worthless".

I'm not going to justify HRH, or how she works "tirelessly" to you, you can read http://www.royal.gov.uk/HMTheQueen/DayInTheLife/Queensworkingday.aspx - assuming you can read of course.

I stand by my original assertion - she contributes to this country (and commonwealth) in every way more than you, and your entire ancestry will or ever will. This isn't a personal attack - as the same is true of myself.
 
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