The Return of Fuel Protests

Would love to see Rypt run the country for just one month, it would be amazing to see the look on his face when this utterly absurd fantasy utopia he thinks he can create actually turns out to be the 9th level of hell :D
 
Why should the rest of society be forced to help others (other than those who have medical conditions preventing them from working)?

I'll ask you that again when you are almost certainly fired from your first job for seriously getting on everyones nerves, assuming you make it through interview, and can't get another one.
 
Why should the rest of society be forced to help others (other than those who have medical conditions preventing them from working)?

because people need money, not everyone who claims benefits is a sponger. I was made redundant last year, so had to claim JSA, I hated every minute of it, but I couldn't rely on family/friends as they all have their own bills to pay etc. The reason we pay National Insurance and Income Tax and other taxes is to pay for government spending, which includes the benefits system. Or would you rather live in a society where those that unfortunate enough to lose their job for whatever reason have their lives ruined?

When I was out of work my bills were: rent, food, cleaning products, running my car (ok not an essential but a a lot cheaper than using public transport for interviews, also means not having to arrange interviews around public transport times) without JSA and Housing Benefit I would have lost my flat, been starving and wouldn't have had a chance at a job due to no-fixed-address. But clearly that is the kind of society you want to live in. You seriously need to get a grip on the world and realise that people have financial responsibilities and without work can't even pay for the essentials unless the government helps out.
 
same way everyone else pays for your education and medical treatments before you join the real world :rolleyes:

Something that a productive person probably pays back over their lifetime via their taxes, the increased taxes the company they work for pays due to their work, etc.
 
[TW]Fox;19086579 said:
I'll ask you that again when you are almost certainly fired from your first job for seriously getting on everyones nerves, assuming you make it through interview, and can't get another one.

Given the fact that I'm on my 3nd part time job since turning 16, and have worked every year since then ...
 
And it is not fair to make motorists pay, if you need the money put it on income tax

Of course it's fair. If you drive more you pay more and that's coming from someone who drives 100 miles per day to and from work. Why should everyone have to pay for me to drive more miles?
 
Of course it's fair. If you drive more you pay more and that's coming from someone who drives 100 miles per day to and from work. Why should everyone have to pay for me to drive more miles?

Why should you pay more tax on fuel above money that is going to be used to cover alternative energy research, etc?
 
[TW]Fox;19086675 said:
It's a bit different when you rock up at your first full time job convinced you know better than everyone else ;)

Not really, at my current job I known more than all other staff other than my boss, something that my boss uses to his advantage by asking for my opinion on things where I have equal or better knowledge than him.

Given the fact that this year I've worked 3 days a week (well 2 days a week until Xmas) and been at uni the other days, in an office that otherwise has full time staff (working full time all of last summer and any other time when I have no uni)


You don't know me, or my life, Fox.
I am fully entitled to hold whatever views I hold, fully entitled to despise paying for things (via tax) that serve no constructive purpose to me (or in my eyes to society as a whole) ... be that benefits, public sector workers, and so on.
 
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That still won't bring down fuel prices. Got any more bright suggestions?

better than bending over and taking one up the ass like everyones doing right now :/

if 10 people block a refinery, they'll just get laughed at, if the whole country stopped going to work and blocked every refinery and all of london, theres a better chance of the government realising they are against everyone and will have to do something... its all about who will cave in first, them or us, at the moment its us :/
they threatened the protesters with the army last time (getting worried:D) and thats cause not enough of us took a stand!
 
Not really, at my current job I known more than all other staff other than my boss, something that my boss uses to his advantage by asking for my opinion on things where I have equal or better knowledge than him.

Given the fact that this year I've worked 3 days a week (well 2 days a week until Xmas) and been at uni the other days, in an office that otherwise has full time staff (working full time all of last summer and any other time when I have no uni)

You really know nothing about the world outside your little fantasy bubble do you, you will either lose your first full-time job very quickly or you will end up getting your head kicked in by somebody who doesn't like jumped-up little know-it-alls
 
You really know nothing about the world outside your little fantasy bubble do you, you will either lose your first full-time job very quickly or you will end up getting your head kicked in by somebody who doesn't like jumped-up little know-it-alls

agreed, he's just a child with a lot of growing up to do and with an ego like that when he falls its going to be a bigun ;)
 
You don't know me, or my life, Fox.
I am fully entitled to hold whatever views I hold, fully entitled to despise paying for things (via tax) that serve no constructive purpose to me (or in my eyes to society as a whole) ... be that benefits, public sector workers, and so on.

And I resent the fact money I paid in taxes went towards subsidising your education, but hey, thats life, I get over it and move on.

(Thats right rypt, you are yourself technically in receipt of benefits from the State. You wouldn't be at Uni if you had to pay the full cost of being there thats for sure!)
 
You really know nothing about the world outside your little fantasy bubble do you, you will either lose your first full-time job very quickly or you will end up getting your head kicked in by somebody who doesn't like jumped-up little know-it-alls

Or instead people should perhaps expand their knowledge so that they don't need to come running to me each time they have to deal with a problem that affects Linux or Mac (and I never even used Mac until getting this job) as their only experience before was with Windows until the workplace started to support Linux/Mac.


It's not my fault that I learn things quickly and have an inherent understanding of them while others fail miserably at it despite being in a job longer than me.

I'm hardly a know-it-all, I know my limits of knowledge ...
 
[TW]Fox;19086736 said:
And I resent the fact money I paid in taxes went towards subsidising your education, but hey, thats life, I get over it and move on.

(Thats right rypt, you are yourself technically in receipt of benefits from the State. You wouldn't be at Uni if you had to pay the full cost of being there thats for sure!)

Until Uni my education was all private, so there was no subsidy there.

As for Uni education, it is not you subsidising me, but rather you investing in me ... as I'm bound to pay it back (and then some) via taxes over my working life.


[TW]Fox;19086748 said:
You don't think you have any limits. Be it nuclear power or the welfare state, healthcare or immigration, you know best.
No, I have an opinion and a view on those things .. and I certainly know a damn sight more than whoever is running this country, given the mess that has been the last 13 years.

It's a bit like you always giving your opinion on BMWs ... which has been in another thread "don't buy a cheap one, it will throw large bills" (despite the fact that there is no inherent reason why a BMW should throw larger bills than say a Toyota other than due to BMW overpricing parts or due to BMWs being less reliable)
 
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