Sorry, caught it before you edited it.
It seems fairly obvious that most people here are arguing against your flailing assertions that religion is worthless.
Is the bible still relevant today?
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Sorry, caught it before you edited it.
It seems fairly obvious that most people here are arguing against your flailing assertions that religion is worthless.
Same reason in here, when the OP has been proved wrong and the bible quoted to him, he just posts a clip of a school.
It's their utter hatred for religion, that they have now lost all ability of logic and reason. Funnily this is the same reaction with fundamentalist religious types, there are so wrapped up in there self believe, they can't think any other way.
It's their utter hatred for religion, that they have now lost all ability of logic and reason. Funnily this is the same reaction with fundamentalist religious types, there are so wrapped up in there self believe, they can't think any other way.
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and saying the bible says x, when it doesn't and he wouldn't be able to find any passage that does, like the 6000 years.
If he wants to change it to why does x-christian-denomination say 6000 years then he would have a point, but when he says the bible has it in, then it clearly shows he doesn't have a clue and what's worse than that he sticks with the point.
If he can post whatever he likes, as you clearly state he can, then surely he can post that his of the opinion that you are a troll and was disingenuous in the way you created the thread given the flow of debate?
Otherwise he cannot post whatever he likes, and if not, then you didn't create the thread so that people can post whatever they like, they can only post whatever they like as long if it is not critical of your motives, is that right?
John 1:3 says "Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made." So there was nothing, until God made everything.
That verse doesn't explain anything and just tells me God is infinite. If he has so much time to talk about Adam & Eve and Jesus and the epic stories to follow.
Human mind is curious. I want to know what happened before. Did someone else rebel against God like satan.
Sounds like God has bad management style with his subordinates.
That verse doesn't explain anything and just tells me God is infinite. If he has so much time to talk about Adam & Eve and Jesus and the epic stories to follow.
Human mind is curious. I want to know what happened before. Did someone else rebel against God like satan.
Sounds like God has bad management style with his subordinates.
The point is that nothing happened before. Before God created everything, there was nothing but God.
Again, if everything was written down the book would be huge and impossible to read or even write in the first place.
If you are generally interested (which I don't believe you are), then the great controversy By Ellen g White is a good read and puts a new spin on things. I'm not saying it's true as I don't believe it, however it is a very interesting idea.
No it hasnt actually. I've asked for it a few times and no one does give me any biblical quotes or references.
In fact, I quoted the part of the genesis myself saying that God created the world in 6 days, and two passages that suggest that the world is flat, which prove what I was saying to be correct?
So I didn't quote Gensis 1:1 to you with the bit which says the heavens and the earth(universe) existed before the creationist story that follows.
As for the days you quoted the incorrect English translation, not the original text.
No it didn't prove you were correct, it merely illustrated how you interpreted those passages in isolation.
So it was meaningless in actual fact.
Oh ok then, the Earth was actually created in one day, the remaining 5 were spent putting stuff on it, like plants before the sun.
Cool story bro. I'll make sure I remember this in the future.
Again did you actually read what I said?
I wish I could convince billion of people to believe a retarded books.
I see the torah, bible and quran as a trilogy of nonsense that have been amended to fix the errors along the way.
Also the idea of nothing before God is so funny, I don't know even know where to start debating that.
Religion teaches you to read and believe and not question anything.
I see the torah, bible and quran as a trilogy of nonsense that have been amended to fix the errors along the way.
Also the idea of nothing before God is so funny, I don't know even know where to start debating that.
Religion teaches you to read and believe and not question anything.
The original Hebrew talks about 6 periods of time, not 6 days. End of argument.
In the ancient world, people often referred to the whole world, meaning the world that was known to them. In the Middle East that would mean... the Middle East. So it would be possible to climb a mountain and see "the whole world", or at least a part of it. Anyway, the point is that Satan was tempting Jesus by promising him things that he couldn't deliver on, but of course it's more fun to miss the point of the story and nitpick I guess.
And people nowadays still refer to the four corners of the earth to mean every part of the earth. It's a figure of speech. The chances are that the original text doesn't even say that. Some different translations say "ends of the earth", "quarters of the earth" and some other things besides.
again wrong, that's what some denominations say. Bible actually teaches you to Teach and test your self and see if your faith holds up.
Yes, you said that the definition is incorrect, and I partly agree. Its not only an incorrect translation, but the entire account of creationism in the Genesis is false.
However, that doesnt mean that a lot of Christians dont believe it as a fact, and bibilical nonsense is being taught as factual science in 45 UK Christian schools.
LOL, so you believe humans were around only since the torah and bible. Basically skipped other civilizations to make a readable book.
Further more why did god use a book as medium of communication.
So you think this is all one big exam, God gets entertainment from watching people suffer ?
You may want to read this (If you can stay awake of course) which is a teaching document given to British Catholics which helps them understand what is literal about the bible and what is not.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...e2MffyaIw&sig2=roFAQkX-71Ng2_mUTqb9Dg&cad=rja
Basically, most of what you are quoting comes into the "Is not" bracket.
Anyway that is enough for me, as I have had this debate (I use the word loosely) far too many times and some people are far to entrenched in their misconceptions to pay attention so I cannot be bother to repeat myself once again.
I never said otherwise.
Which is why you need to clarify when you are talking, are you talking about the bible or a specific denomination.
As this thread is about the bible, unless you state otherwise, I and others will assume you are talking about thebible.
If you only think this relates to religion you are wrong, this happens in all walks of life, even in "science" when you get someone who beliefs something which isn't there. Just like the dr and his mar jab trials.
And if it doesn't Hold. Which I can GUARANTEE without fail is doesn't.
What does Christianity teach then. The "IF statement" if the latter is true what does Christianity teach then.
Does it tell you "you've been had"
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