Brake Disc Puller

[BennyC]

I have a rear disc on a 05 Clio 182 which appears to have not had the pin that the ABS bearing & disc slide on to greased. Either that and/or it's just rusted itself on to the hub.

Stolen from a guide:

You can see the hub nut in the center which wasn't a problem to get off, the disc however would not move for love nor money. 90 minutes worth.

I tried numerous methods to ease it off, hammers, prying with spanners, bars, hitting it in all number of ways, not even the ABS ring would shatter or crack so it's on there pretty good.

'Brake Pullers' seem to do the trick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_rKwfOxFm8

The disc measures about 240mm in diameter. I've sourced a pulling tool

65MM REACH X 75MM SPREAD TRIPLE LEG REVERSIBLE PULLER
102MM REACH X 110MM SPREAD TRIPLE LEG REVERSIBLE PULLER
165MM REACH X 160MM SPREAD TRIPLE LEG REVERSIBLE PULLER

I'm not sure which reach/spread I need? or if 160mm is the maximum diameter disc it will work on?

Thanks,

BennyC

 

[Deleted member 66701]

1: Why did you take the hub nut off?

2: You're not hitting it hard enough - get a lump hammer in on the action.

 

[Mucky_Pup]

I don't think they'd be big enough although I could be mistaken, they sound like bearing pullers we use at work.

I'd just get at it with some more oil, and either a lump hammer or mallet on alternate sides.

 

[Lopéz]

Are you binning the disc? Cut a slot in it with an angle grinder, then put a chisel in the gap and hit it, hard with a lump hammer. The disc will crack and fall off.

EDIT:
Like this http://www.kelsey-forums.co.uk/cgi-bin/cmm/YaBB.pl?num=1195050936

Funnily enough it was a Mondeo I needed to do this on, same as in that link.

 

[Vince]

In some cars you can screw some bolts into the holes in the disc to push it off, don't know if this is possible on the 182...

From my cars service manual...

"If a stuck brake disc cannot be removed by gently tapping with a plastic hammer, evenly screw hexagon-head bolts into the two m8 bolt threads of the brake disc, thereby pressing off the disc."

 

[Mucky_Pup]

His disc hasn't got holes for jacking bolts judging from the pictures.

 

[Luke]

Bigger hammer, more effort.

 

[Vince]

His disc hasn't got holes for jacking bolts judging from the pictures.

Wasn't sure as he said pic was stolen from a guide, plus I have never done anything on any kind of clio so yea that could well be absolutely useless.

As others have said big ass hammer is all that is needed here.

 

[BennyC]

1: Why did you take the hub nut off?

2: You're not hitting it hard enough - get a lump hammer in on the action.

Because the hub nut holds the disc on

In some cars you can screw some bolts into the holes in the disc to push it off, don't know if this is possible on the 182...

From my cars service manual...

"If a stuck brake disc cannot be removed by gently tapping with a plastic hammer, evenly screw hexagon-head bolts into the two m8 bolt threads of the brake disc, thereby pressing off the disc."

I saw something similar to this on youtube. I could dismantle the assembly the carrier clips on to and then screw bolts in the opposite way which would press on the disc, though I think I'd need to detatch the brakeline.

I'm going to speak to a few local garages and see if they can be of any help or if I can chuck them some cash to borrow a brake puller.

Edit: Discs do not need to be re-used. My clio is exactly the same as that in the picture above.

That's what it looks like when the disc is off. I can't get to the 4 bolts at the back as the screw (this side you can see) will just spin and the rear shock needs removing to get to two of them.

 

[Lopéz]

Edit: Discs do not need to be re-used.

Then just cut it and belt it off, less than 30 seconds work.

 

[andy_mk3]

Get the biggest hammer you can find and put everything into it. I've had to do this to many cars. Transit vans are terrible to do, you have to smash them to bits before they come off usually!

Just had a thought though, I know the newer renault meganes.. on the rear brakes, the disk and wheel bearing are one unit, so you have you take the hub nut off to remove the disk.. yours isn't the same is it?

 

[Clarkey]

So the brake disc IS the hub then? Wierd, if that's the case I can't think why it would be stuck on.

 

[Biohazard]

smash it like man!!

 

[tigerstyle]

Little bit of heat?

...And a bigger hammer! Strange design though.

 

[Howard]

2: You're not hitting it hard enough

 

[ScoobyDoo69]

I once thought a disc wouldn't come off..then I manned up and smacked it good and proper. Man up

 

[Gibbo]

You need a far bigger hammer!

 

[burns]

I agree, find a bigger hammer. Lopez's idea sounds good too.

It does seem a bit odd that it is essentially requiring a hammer to remove a hub from the spindle, I'd check the spindle carefully once it is off.

So the brake disc IS the hub then? Wierd, if that's the case I can't think why it would be stuck on.

That's right, I guess it saves weight/ money over making two seperate components.

 

[task]

Piece of angle iron running just over the length between two wheel bolts. Drill 3 holes, one over each wheel bolt hole and one over the stub axle. Weld a nut on the back of the angle over the middle hole, bolt the angle into the two wheel bolt mounting holes and then use the middle nut/bolt to "pull" the disc off.

Either that or belt the hell out of it with a bigger hammer.

 

[Dogbreath]

So the brake disc IS the hub then? Wierd, if that's the case I can't think why it would be stuck on.

This is relatively common - makes replacing the discs an expensive exercise though.

OP needs a proper hammer; a puny little claw hammer might be ok for hanging pictures, but isn't the right tool for this job. Get a proper big lump hammer and try to apply plenty of pressure to the disc with a pry bar or tyre lever at the same time as applying the lump hammer (ideally apply hammer to opposite edge of the disc from the lever - this helps to pull the hub squarely).