To neuter or not to neuter a dog?

exhashdotdot said:
Pets are neutered because their unwanted pregnancies are the result of thousands and thousands of animals being put down every year. By not neutering your animal, you are potentially contributing to the holocaust which is unwanted pet destruction.
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That's simply not true, if you are a responsible owner then regardless of whether your pet has been neutered or not there will be no unwanted pregnancies. Why should someone put their animal at a higher risk of deadly cancers because some people are irresponsible?

Brian8bit said:
We have licensing in Northern Ireland still. Unfortunately it doesn't stop animals being neglected or abused. People just don't bother getting the license and the punishments are a joke. All it does (like many government statutes) is punish the legitimate owners and breeders.
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Unfortunately licensing never works when it comes to domestic animals, they aren't like cars which require an assembly plant to make; any idiot can breed hundreds of them with impunity so enforcement is a virtual impossibility.
 
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My dog has been neutered, and it hasn't affected the positive parts of his personality. He loves people and other dogs, is still playful.

Now he doesn't ignore commands in the park cause he's trying to get with all the ladies, he doesn't have a funny 5 minutes of running around in the house, and he is much better dog for it.
 
Brookert said:
My dog has been neutered, and it hasn't affected the positive parts of his personality. He loves people and other dogs, is still playful.

Now he doesn't ignore commands in the park cause he's trying to get with all the ladies, he doesn't have a funny 5 minutes of running around in the house, and he is much better dog for it.
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What age did you get him done, and how long did it take for you to notice the difference?

(I guess probably done around 1.5-2 and 6 months to notice the difference)

KaHn
 
exhashdotdot said:
But it IS true, that's the terrible thing. Just because it's not a nice thing to hear doesn't mean it's not true.
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An intact dog looked after by a responsible owner is not going to get pregnant nor get another dog pregnant. You can post as many emotive videos as you like but it's not going to change that fact.
 
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My Labrador recently is making his mark outside. Parks, street corners etc. And the other week he nearly did it inside someone else's house who has dogs. As soon as he started to **** his leg a stern 'NO' and tug sideways of his lead stopped him.

He did it also in Pets at home a few weeks back but now when we go I will keep a close eye and once he starts to **** its a tug and 'no'. he gets the message now. Even when we are walking I sometimes say no when he wants to go against a bush on the edge of someone's garden. I am getting to the point when I can dictate when and where he goes when we are outside walking etc.

Unfortunatly he will have to be neutered over the next few months/
 
Energize said:
An intact dog looked after by a responsible owner is not going to get pregnant nor get another dog pregnant. You can post as many emotive videos as you like but it's not going to change that fact.
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I think you are being somewhat idealistic. In a perfect world, every pet owner is responsible, in the real world, many pet owners don't give two turnips. Obviously if your a breeder, or a sensible level headed owner, neutering may not be a requirement, but for the vast majority of chavs who live on council estates who can barely limit their own breeding?
 
KaHn said:
What age did you get him done, and how long did it take for you to notice the difference?

(I guess probably done around 1.5-2 and 6 months to notice the difference)

KaHn
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I think it was around one. We did it because he was being completely disobedient in the park trying to hump anything. Also the house was getting ruined by the running around for 5-10 minutes before he calmed down.

For him it took a couple of weeks to get right. Didn't help that he was truamatised at the vets cause some stupid pitbull ran up to him and bit him on the nose .

I had to wrestle with it to get it off, would have gone to the police about a dangerous dog but the stupid nurse wouldn't tell me who the owner was when she had just got his details from him.

edit: Also, he used to start marking things when he was out, doesn't do that at all now, just has one huuuuuuuge pee at the start of his walk or in the garden
 
Dogs have inbuilt pack mentality, and he clearly sees himself as the alpha in the house. You don't need to actually hurt him if you catch him peeing, but be loud and scary, assert your dominance. Probably a bit late though as it's better to teach them their place when they are young.

All of the male dogs we had were neutered from the start, and as such it couldn't really change their personality. Doing it later will alter the hormonal balance, which is why they can change then.

My parents current dog isn't snipped (they plan on breeding), and the main thing I noticed is that there is more of a power-play from him. Dogs neutered from pups let you assert dominance early and never challenge you, whereas their current dog still tries to get himself higher on the foodchain than my brother and me.
 
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I have two neutered Jacks and they have proper personality and still kill everything they can. They don't mark territory at all though and know their place in our pack.

Vet gave your family a bum steer as unless you were planning to breed it should have been done young. Speak to a good vet.
 
knip said:
It is if hes peeing to mark his territory surely? He does get a proper telling off if we find some pee.
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if you are telling him off after the fact he will just be confused and think you are being agressive, you need to catch him in the act for it to have any effect
 
Brookert said:
I think it was around one. We did it because he was being completely disobedient in the park trying to hump anything. Also the house was getting ruined by the running around for 5-10 minutes before he calmed down.

For him it took a couple of weeks to get right. Didn't help that he was truamatised at the vets cause some stupid pitbull ran up to him and bit him on the nose .

I had to wrestle with it to get it off, would have gone to the police about a dangerous dog but the stupid nurse wouldn't tell me who the owner was when she had just got his details from him.

edit: Also, he used to start marking things when he was out, doesn't do that at all now, just has one huuuuuuuge pee at the start of his walk or in the garden
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So your dog went from being a teenager to being adult and you noticed a difference? But in the mean time you took your dog to get a traumatic experience of getting his nuts cut.

KaHn
 
krooton said:
It doesn't mess with the hormones as much if you get rid pre-puberty.
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Too me its just not natural to neuter a dog for no reason, if it was for a specific health reason (such as cancer in later life then great) but not as a preventive measure.

KaHn
 
KaHn said:
Too me its just not natural to neuter a dog for no reason, if it was for a specific health reason (such as cancer in later life then great) but not as a preventive measure.

KaHn
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We do many things that aren't natural, neutering dogs is way down the list in terms how bad they are.
 
krooton said:
We do many things that aren't natural, neutering dogs is way down the list in terms how bad they are.
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Haha so thats going to be your arguement for? I'll agree to disagree with everyone here but having your dog neutered isn't going to solve your problem.

KaHn
 
KaHn said:
Haha so thats going to be your arguement for? I'll agree to disagree with everyone here but having your dog neutered isn't going to solve your problem.

KaHn
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Oh I fully agree with you with regards to the OP, I meant in general early neutering results in a calmer dog. The peeing issue is totally down to training.
 
krooton said:
Oh I fully agree with you with regards to the OP, I meant in general early neutering results in a calmer dog.
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Which is down to hormones, which include growth hormones, which I don't think is a good thing to do to a dog.

KaHn
 
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