Black vans for under £3k

ash_scotland88 · 23 May 2011 at 22:20

Blackhawk47 said:
Man...it is hard to find good help these days.

This is how you run a detailing business...and whether you like it or not Mike, taking decent photos to show off your work is part of it.

http://www.miglior.co.uk/

EDIT: Look above he's brought a WHITE VAN!

Where did he bring it?

BinnsY · 23 May 2011 at 22:23

I still stand by my origional point. The pcitures of the Evo, in my opinion, still wouldnt be good enough to drum up buisness. Quite simply it doesnt look in the same league as the finish on the MR2 in similiar outdoor shots.

[TW]Fox · 23 May 2011 at 22:24

BinnsY said:
I still stand by my origional point. The pcitures of the Evo, in my opinion, still wouldnt be good enough to drum up buisness. Quite simply it doesnt look in the same league as the finish on the MR2 in similiar outdoor shots.

Because he is a hobbyist, not a professional and like most hobbyists, he thinks he is professional grade. The same can be found in any hobby where there is a professional side - another great example is photography, everyone with a DLSR thinks they are a pro photographer now, in reality only a small minority really are.

BinnsY · 23 May 2011 at 22:27

Blackhawk47 said:
This is how you run a detailing business...and whether you like it or not Mike, taking decent photos to show off your work is part of it.

http://www.miglior.co.uk/

EDIT: Look above he's brought a WHITE VAN!

I've just taken a look at the portfolio on that link and you are 100% spot on. They are the perfect pictures that would get my buisness. (if I ever get a car worthy of it

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MikeHiow · 23 May 2011 at 22:28

BinnsY said:
I still stand by my origional point. The pcitures of the Evo, in my opinion, still wouldnt be good enough to drum up buisness. Quite simply it doesnt look in the same league as the finish on the MR2 in similiar outdoor shots.

No it doesn't, and neither is it supposed to, it was merely an example of how reflections differ with colour, light and location. The photos were taken by the owner a week after it was done.

The finish on that MR2 is crap - the holograms are clearly evident in one of the photos. I'd be fuming if someone came to correct my car and left holograms all over it.

ash_scotland88 · 23 May 2011 at 22:30

MikeHiow said:
No it doesn't, and neither is it supposed to, it was merely an example of how reflections differ with colour, light and location. The photos were taken by the owner a week after it was done.

The finish on that MR2 is crap - the holograms are clearly evident in one of the photos. I'd be fuming if someone came to correct my car and left holograms all over it.

Holograms?
I don't see a 3d image?.....

(I am more slagging off my own uneducated ways of not knowing that there is a second meaning...if at all as google isn't telling me anything)

Berger · 23 May 2011 at 22:32

MikeHiow said:
No it doesn't, and neither is it supposed to, it was merely an example of how reflections differ with colour, light and location. The photos were taken by the owner a week after it was done.

The finish on that MR2 is crap - the holograms are clearly evident in one of the photos. I'd be fuming if someone came to correct my car and left holograms all over it.

Sure you're not looking at the before photo?

The afters look great to me, better than your civic ones.

Personally I think you want a T220 Connect or something similar <5 years old with no rust or dents in as good condition as you can find.

I would agree with Jez in that an old van looks *****, the pre 2006 Transits just look awful now.

Remember that you will need to take into account VAT unless you are VAT registered (doubt it?).

Do you have a PTG and suitable insurance?

jellybeard999 · 23 May 2011 at 22:33

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1995-MAZDA-BO...mobiles_UK&hash=item1c1bf2f138#ht_1630wt_1139

MikeHiow · 23 May 2011 at 22:34

Berger said:
Sure you're not looking at the before photo?

The afters look great to me, better than your civic ones.

Personally I think you want a T220 Connect or something similar <5 years old with no rust or dents in as good condition as you can find.

I would agree with Jez in that an old van looks *****, the pre 2006 Transits just look awful now.

Remember that you will need to take into account VAT unless you are VAT registered (doubt it?).

Do you have a PTG and suitable insurance?

Holograms - that is an after shot.

This is exactly my point - you can get a photo of great reflections without having done a good job - the pick-up I posted was a perfect example of this, too.

Yes I have a PTG, and yes I will have suitable insurance (waiting for A-Plan to get back to me, actually).

MofoKilla · 23 May 2011 at 22:34

I wish i had "crap" paintwork like that on my vr lol

Lopéz · 23 May 2011 at 22:34

I think the "holograms" are actually lens flare in the camera from the reflection of the sun in the incredibly shiny paint actually.

BinnsY · 23 May 2011 at 22:34

MikeHiow said:
No it doesn't, and neither is it supposed to, it was merely an example of how reflections differ with colour, light and location. The photos were taken by the owner a week after it was done.

The finish on that MR2 is crap - the holograms are clearly evident in one of the photos. I'd be fuming if someone came to correct my car and left holograms all over it.

Are we looking at the same pictures? :/

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but coming back after the post and then informing the pictures of the Evo were a week after the detail is a pretty major u-turn. Given how clean the rims are, I also find it rather hard to believe.

**EDIT**

Actually, I see what you mean now when you say hologram, look at the position of the sun in the reflection and how the "hologram" is perfectly in line with it. That is certainly a lense flare.

ash_scotland88 · 23 May 2011 at 22:38

Lopéz said:
I think the "holograms" are actually lens flare in the camera from the reflection of the sun in the incredibly shiny paint actually.

Then why not call them lense flare?

BinnsY · 23 May 2011 at 22:39

ash_scotland88 said:
Then why not call them lense flare?

Because there is such a thing as holograms as well.

http://quantumdetailing.com/hologramsandmicromarring.aspx

MikeHiow · 23 May 2011 at 22:39

Notice where the hologram runs all the way up the door and there is also one crossing it as well, far beyond where you'd suffer lens flare.

There is lens flare there as well, but there are holograms too.

Kenai · 23 May 2011 at 22:41

MikeHiow said:
Notice where the hologram runs all the way up the door and there is also one crossing it as well, far beyond where you'd suffer lens flare.

Lens flare can easily afflict a picture from edge to edge, there isn't a 'beyond' point.

MofoKilla · 23 May 2011 at 22:41

Mike not being funny bud , but do you enjoy all this attention?

Nearly 10 pages lol

BinnsY · 23 May 2011 at 22:43

MikeHiow said:
Notice where the hologram runs all the way up the door and there is also one crossing it as well, far beyond where you'd suffer lens flare.

There is lens flare there as well, but there are holograms too.

Not really, every line that looks even remotely like a hologram origionates directly from the bright spot of the sun as I'm looking at it. To me thats lense flare.

MikeHiow · 23 May 2011 at 22:46

Since when does lens flare curve?

Skeeter · 23 May 2011 at 22:47

MofoKilla said:
Mike not being funny bud , but do you enjoy all this attention?

Nearly 10 pages lol

Of course he does. Its why he posts. A 'spec me a black van' thread from any other user would have died in less than a page. But Mike knew this would spur a big old thread where he could discuss his business plans of being a pro detailer.