Joule Creates Renewable Fossil Fuels At Unlimited Quantity.

although it would only take (from some crude maths) 8.76 million acres (35,450 km² )of land to produce enough fuel to meet the Us daily usage of petrol/diesel.

And that's not including the ethanol they produce at the same time.

That's actually a pretty reasonable amount of land.
35,450km2 is only about 15% of the size of Arizona.
 
Just grow it in large sea pens.

NO.



1) horribly inefficient it would grow on the top and not let any light though ,that's why they grow it in very thin racks.

2) no way in hell would you ever get permission to put hundred/thousands of tons of genetically altered e.coli that produces oil and alcohol into the sea, pens or otherwise.

3) collecting from a sea pen without doing it in batches would be incredibly awkward.
 
You could still grow it in pipes or bags in the sea.
It all depends what the ecoli needs to survive and feed on, to how hard it is contain.
 
You could still grow it in pipes or bags in the sea.

never gona happen, even if the stuff couldn't live in the sea, lots of fragile pipes or bags full of oil?

yeah that's going to go down well.

and anyway what the hell would that even achieve?

If you're putting it in pipes then putting it in the sea all you've done is add some sea water over the top to reduce the light getting to it.

Also if you're using sea water pens and it's untreated the natural life forms are going to ruin your stock.
 
What do you achieve. Unlimited supply of sea water. Huge growing area in some of the best sun light parts of the world.

There to ways of mass producing, high area low efficiency or low are high efficiency. Who said pipes or bags would be under the sea water it all depends how you implement it and the broth cycles and how oil is extracted. I don't see why it wouldn't be allowed. We already do so much, it is after all just a gm crop. But again it depends on a lot we just haven't been told.
 
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What do you achieve. Unlimited supply of sea water. Huge growing area in some of the best sun light parts of the world.

Building a 5,000 acre very fragile structure in the sea is a lot harder harder than building a 5,000 acre very fragile structure on land.

we can pump water.
But if you're putting it in bags or pipes then putting the bags or pipes in the sea will only lose you efficiency, it will be cold, and the water will absorb some light.

And you still have to treat the sea water anyway.

Building it in the sea is making it obscenely complicated and much much more risky.
Who said pipes or bags would be under the sea water

So you're going to build a few thousand care frame over the sea?

why not do it on land?
I don't see why it wouldn't be allowed.

People ahve this weird thing agaisnt putting huge quantities of oil into the sea. strange i know

But again it depends on a lot we just haven't been told.


They've got pictures of thier set u pon thier site
 
Again you are making a lot of assumptions. Yes it is more complicated but you have an abundance of the three things you need, space, light and water.
Why would it be delicate, again another found less assumption.

But anyway it's not even what they are doing.
 
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You're going to have a hard time building that over the water, and able to survive storms.

Making it over the sea just makes no sense what so ever.

Not even sure where the hell you got the crazy idea in the first place
 
I remember reading about a similar thing using algae for production of biofuel. I believe the proposed solution there was that you could get a good area to production ratio by having the algae in tubes with rotating blades that mixed all the algae in such a way that they all got enough sun light with which to photosynthesise. I suppose potentially another way to go about it would be to have them grown in layered sheets, using angled mirrors to reflect sunlight onto the layers.
 
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Why would it be delicate, again another found less assumption.

Because their panels are glass/plastic tubes?


You want to built a huge thousand acre platform in the sea?


yeah that's not going to cost hundreds of billions of dollars and take decades.
 
Why would that be hard to build at sea? And why would a storm break it?
Have you got any idea of structures in sea, especially as they don't even have to be anchored like oil rigs. Glass is extremely strong.
Any replacement for oil, is going to cost hundreds of billions and take decades.
It all depends if the extra cost or sea, is outweighed by unlimited raw materials on site and extra sunshine. Something neither of us, has the answer for. It is a suggestion.
 
There's no reason to believe that the sea water needs to be treated.

The natural life in the sea water would be an issue, natural algae etc would clog the tubes/grow on the surface and block the light.

The other bacteria would kill the modified bacteria, the sea water may contain phage's that would wipe out all of the e.coli.
 
Seems obvious to me...

the more electricity you consume, the fatter you are.
the fatter you are, the more you need to run.
the more you run, the more electricity you make.

HAMSTER WHEELS ARE THE FUTURE
 
The natural life in the sea water would be an issue, natural algae etc would clog the tubes/grow on the surface and block the light.

The other bacteria would kill the modified bacteria, the sea water may contain phage's that would wipe out all of the e.coli.
Ah sorry I thought you meant it had to be de-salinated, that sort of stuff you refer to isn't a big issue.
 
Why would that be hard to build at sea? And why would a storm break it?
Have you got any idea of structures in sea, especially as they don't even have to be anchored like oil rigs. Glass is extremely strong.




you think you can build a 20 square kilometre structure in the sea easily?

When it's going to have to meet up to regulations regarding oil spills etc.
 
you think you can build a 20 square kilometre structure in the sea easily?

When it's going to have to meet up to regulations regarding oil spills etc.

It depend what you mean is easy. It is certainly doable and nothing technologically hard about it. Again it depends on precisely the cycle and extra equipment, vs the potential extra in production.
 
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