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GTX 480 or GTX 570?
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You probably need to read about Transitive relation.
OF COURSE extra 1.5gb (100% increase) is going to give you a better performance - it's doubled ffs, but show me where it says extra 300mb (25% increase) will?
Delete your post, please don't confuse OP with that irrelevant comparison.
Time to go back to school 'drifting'?
edit: just noticed maybe he is spamming to get to 250 posts for free shipping
The performance gain from extra vram is diminishing returns. Look into the picture I posted on #13 of this thread carefully.
So his suggestion is get a 580GTX with 3GB, ofcourse if you can get a 590GTX with 1,000GB it will last you a life time and you will be able to give it to your next generation since VRAM is the only thing that matters, I don't even know why GPU cards are not called VRAM sticks!
Being extreme doesn't help.
first of all transitive relation has nothing to do with what we are talking about... there is no need to be pretentious! Show me your application of transitive relation in this situation.
The point still remains 570 out performs 480 even at 2560x1440.
the picture you posted in #13 is irrlevent, once again, it's comparing a 480 to 470, where the variable is NOT JUST VRAM - they the same generation ffs. 480 to 470 is more like 580 to 570, NOT 480 to 570...
Why are you so fixated on VRAM!!!??? like you said it's diminishing returns, why not waste your time on comparing something that will give you more than 0.000001fps per GB.
The point still remains 570 out performs 480 even at 2560x1440.
the picture you posted in #13 is irrlevent, once again, it's comparing a 480 to 470, where the variable is NOT JUST VRAM - they the same generation ffs. 480 to 470 is more like 580 to 570, NOT 480 to 570...
Why are you so fixated on VRAM!!!??? like you said it's diminishing returns, why not waste your time on comparing something that will give you more than 0.000001fps per GB.
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So your comparing a 570 for £250 and a 480 for £225.
570 has less memory but is ~ same speed at stock.
480 is louder, uses more power, but cheaper with more memory, and overclocks better.
My solution is to spend £5 more add a "Zalman VF3000-F Graphics Card Cooler" to the 480 and remove the heat and noise issues. Like i did!
Asus 480 £225 + Zalman £35 = £260. Then clock the hell out of it!
All for a mere £10 more than the MSI 570.
Overclocked the 480 will eat the 570 for breakfast. Sorted.
570 has less memory but is ~ same speed at stock.
480 is louder, uses more power, but cheaper with more memory, and overclocks better.
My solution is to spend £5 more add a "Zalman VF3000-F Graphics Card Cooler" to the 480 and remove the heat and noise issues. Like i did!
Asus 480 £225 + Zalman £35 = £260. Then clock the hell out of it!
All for a mere £10 more than the MSI 570.Overclocked the 480 will eat the 570 for breakfast. Sorted.
So your comparing a 570 for £250 and a 480 for £225.
570 has less memory but is ~ same speed at stock.
480 is louder, uses more power, but cheaper with more memory, and overclocks better.
My solution is to spend £5 more add a "Zalman VF3000-F Graphics Card Cooler" to the 480 and remove the heat and noise issues. Like i did!
Asus 480 £225 + Zalman £35 = £260. Then clock the hell out of it!
Overclocked the 480 will eat the 570 for breakfast. Sorted.
Yeah the 570 can't be overclocked, OH WAIT!... Seriously good comparisons to be had here thats like comparing a stock cpu to a oc'ed cpu GTFO.
1.5GB < vram wall
1.2GB < 1.5GB
Therefore 1.2GB < vram wall.
Same generation tells better on the vram limitation. If you think GF110 is a better architecture then could you list it?
Both cards are great but providing you can get a 480 for a good price like I did, you can simply overclock it. You can't make up for the lower memory interface by overclocking the 570. Anyway, whatever you get will be a very, very nice card. If you like to mod games very heavily and play at high res with AA then the 480 will beat the 570 by a little. If you want something cooler and quieter (re: reference models), then the 570 is the one to go for. It is a (very) quiet high end card.
No need for some of the rude, disrespectful comments that have been made in this thread. Grow up!
No need for some of the rude, disrespectful comments that have been made in this thread. Grow up!
OMG drifiting, arguing with you is like trying to argue with a duck...
What the hell does 1.2gb < vram wall prove anything in this case??... more so, what does this relate to you post a 100% increase vram comparison to prove a 25% vram increase?
My point wasn’t which is better architecture, it never was! It’s irrelevant, something you seem to love.
My point was when you are comparing 480 to 470 VRAM IS NOT THE ONLY VARIABLE MAKING 480 better, vram its one of the LEAST important variable out of all the differences between 470 and 480. YET AGAIN, you've lead me to argue about something completely irrelevant.
IN ANYTHING, if you are trying to compare two items, you want to keep all other variable the SAME, EXCEPT the one you are comparing, you have no concept of this, from your first post. i dont think you fully understand what transitive relation is, it has no purpose here.
PLEASE STOP SPAMING!! Make useful posts if you want free shipping…
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I never said the 570 wasn't overclocked, or couldn't overclock. Sorry if that wasn't clear!
I was comparing an overclocked 480 to a overclocked 570.
From what i have read 570's do not overclock that well and the VRMs blow if you run high volts or disable to power limiting. These issues do not affect the 480.
480's run relative low stock speeds to limit power useage, heat and noise. With a better cooler, and a quality PSU they overclock VERY well.
Even if you regard them as identical speed. I'd still take the larger frame buffer TBH.
I had a 570 and a 480 afterwards and I'd vote the 480
the extra VRAM, higher bandwidth of the VRAM and the extra ROPS reallymakea differenceont he480 - maybe not in benchmarks (in Heaven my 570 was faster ...overclocked anyway) - BUT in games themselves the 480 feels smoother and more consistent - brute force and higher minimum frame rates I think
the extra VRAM, higher bandwidth of the VRAM and the extra ROPS reallymakea differenceont he480 - maybe not in benchmarks (in Heaven my 570 was faster ...overclocked anyway) - BUT in games themselves the 480 feels smoother and more consistent - brute force and higher minimum frame rates I think
drifting is obssesed with vram
not everyone plays at super mega resolutions with loads of AA
1080p with 2x or 4x AA doesn't need over 1gb 99% of the time
it all depends on resolution and the amount of AA you want to use when taking vram into account
not everyone plays at super mega resolutions with loads of AA
1080p with 2x or 4x AA doesn't need over 1gb 99% of the time
it all depends on resolution and the amount of AA you want to use when taking vram into account
If you can get a 480 with an aftermarket cooler for the same price, or less than a 570, then I'd go for that. Then depending on the card it can be overclocked to pretty much match the performance of a 580. Sure others will argue that the 570 can also be oc'ed but clock for clock the 480 is just a little faster.
480 and 570 3dMark both clocked at 850MHz core:
480: 5887pts
570: 5664pts
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/552370
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/551102
480 and 570 3dMark both clocked at 850MHz core:
480: 5887pts
570: 5664pts
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/552370
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/551102
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GTX480, More VRAM...
I have to say - as much as I'vehad problems with my GB SOC 480 - it is quite cool relatively - cooler than my 570 was at much higher volts
I'm at 1.10V and in gamesit doesn't get above 81C
isn't that a custom cooler vs stock cooler though?
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That depends if his card is stable out of the box.