London **** WALK
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I'm afraid to say I know two people that have been on these stupid walks 
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Care to read the entire post next time? Event though you've just proven my point...
And the point is what, exactly? That police officer is right - dressing in a provocative manner WILL increase your chance of being raped (which is a terrible thing, but it is a recognised danger). Of course you are allowed to wear whatever slutty clothes you want, the same as you can have have whatever phone you want - I'd rather have a £10 Nokia than an iPhone in a bad neighbourhood though. Same applies for clothes.
Maybe someone should have a protest against murder?
Maybe someone should have a protest against murder?
You realise my response was about that police officers statement, right? In which case, as long as the quote was reported accurately, I hardly think I've missed the point.
Perhaps you'd care to clarify, without personal attacks?
Perhaps you'd care to read the post I linked to, fully, to see that I've already answered that question. 3 strikes
Yeah, they're all gagging for it.
And for my serious answer. Yeah women get raped a lot of the time when they're dressed in a way which could be considered "sexualised", but that isn't the only time women are raped. Quite a lot of rapes occur when the victim is either out late at night on their own for one reason or another, many happen when people are burgled as well and in plenty of other situations when women are literally just going about their daily business dressed in a kempt manner. These are the people who are not looking for any attention whatsoever, but unfortunately are subject to it.
The others however, who go out trying to get attention by showing a bit of flesh and what not, they can argue all they want the whole "yeah but it doesn't mean we have to be raped", but ultimately they're looking for the attention and when you go about doing that it's not always going to pan out how you want. Because ultimately people dont like it. And there are guys out there who will look at these girls/women, know they don't really stand a chance and so just take what they want against that persons will. That doesn't mean its right, but its how it is and their little protest isn't going to change the mindset of those blokes who get fed up time and again of feeling led on by girls and constantly getting knocked back.
the non sexual version of this is when you see the guy in the club who thinks he's jack the lad. He's clearly a bit cocky, a bit arrogant. Thinks he's got it all going for him. He might well do. And he shows it off. Many people don't like that and consequently it draws the wrong sort of attention, and those people then find they get into fights more often.
the moral of the story being, don't draw the attention to yourself consistently and always expect it to go your own way. And while you're doing that, spare a thought for those women who don't seek any attention at all and yet are still subjected to similar traumatic events which due to their clear sober state are probably all the more traumatising.
And for my serious answer. Yeah women get raped a lot of the time when they're dressed in a way which could be considered "sexualised", but that isn't the only time women are raped. Quite a lot of rapes occur when the victim is either out late at night on their own for one reason or another, many happen when people are burgled as well and in plenty of other situations when women are literally just going about their daily business dressed in a kempt manner. These are the people who are not looking for any attention whatsoever, but unfortunately are subject to it.
The others however, who go out trying to get attention by showing a bit of flesh and what not, they can argue all they want the whole "yeah but it doesn't mean we have to be raped", but ultimately they're looking for the attention and when you go about doing that it's not always going to pan out how you want. Because ultimately people dont like it. And there are guys out there who will look at these girls/women, know they don't really stand a chance and so just take what they want against that persons will. That doesn't mean its right, but its how it is and their little protest isn't going to change the mindset of those blokes who get fed up time and again of feeling led on by girls and constantly getting knocked back.
the non sexual version of this is when you see the guy in the club who thinks he's jack the lad. He's clearly a bit cocky, a bit arrogant. Thinks he's got it all going for him. He might well do. And he shows it off. Many people don't like that and consequently it draws the wrong sort of attention, and those people then find they get into fights more often.
the moral of the story being, don't draw the attention to yourself consistently and always expect it to go your own way. And while you're doing that, spare a thought for those women who don't seek any attention at all and yet are still subjected to similar traumatic events which due to their clear sober state are probably all the more traumatising.
LOL!
Except it is just not true that women who dress sexily are more likely to be attacked. It also ignores the simple fact that women are vastly more likely to be raped by someone they know than by a stranger.
I completely agree with what they're trying to get a cross. You should be able to wear what you want and not have to worry about some nasty throw back pestering you, just because they can't control there hormonal urges.
Ahh yes, the old "I was drunk, went back to his place, took my clothes off and got jiggy but after a few minutes I told him to stop but he carried on for another 10 seconds so he raped me."
No personal attacks
No, he is referring to the number of women who are sexually abused by people they know. He is not referring to the drunk women, but everyday women are abused by familiar men in all kinds of circumstances.
Ok fixed:
"I wasn't drunk, went back to his place, took my clothes off and got jiggy but after a few minutes I told him to stop but he carried on for another 10 seconds so he raped me."
I am not a fan of these **** walks, looks like a large amount of attention seeking really.
Everyone is entitled to wear and behave how they want (within the law). Everybody should have enough common sense to know that doing certain things in certain places/situations may get you into trouble. You probably don't always deserve that trouble, but you have to be aware that there are a lot of idiots in the world who will do bad things for silly reasons.
Pick pocket warning signs are all around London, it's not telling you that by having nice items you are allowed to have them taken from your pocket, it's telling you to be wary and take care as there is a risk.
There are signs at some London train stations warning you about using your mobile phone openly due to the relatively high risk of mugging and robbery in that area. This isn't saying if you use a phone you deserve to be mugged, it's telling you to again be wary about where you are and what you're doing to minimise the risks you face.
The same things can apply to women. If you go around late at night getting drunk wearing slutty clothes that obviously garner a lot of attention for you (both good and bad no doubt), then you should realise that this is taking a risk. It doesn't mean you deserve to be raped, but it does mean that you're increasing the chances of the wrong kind of thing happening.
Unfortunately many of these people seem to think that being warned about the negative attention they may attract through dressing provocatively (it's surely called that for a reason) is sexism or telling them they deserve to be raped, which is completely untrue and wrong.
Everyone is entitled to wear and behave how they want (within the law). Everybody should have enough common sense to know that doing certain things in certain places/situations may get you into trouble. You probably don't always deserve that trouble, but you have to be aware that there are a lot of idiots in the world who will do bad things for silly reasons.
Pick pocket warning signs are all around London, it's not telling you that by having nice items you are allowed to have them taken from your pocket, it's telling you to be wary and take care as there is a risk.
There are signs at some London train stations warning you about using your mobile phone openly due to the relatively high risk of mugging and robbery in that area. This isn't saying if you use a phone you deserve to be mugged, it's telling you to again be wary about where you are and what you're doing to minimise the risks you face.
The same things can apply to women. If you go around late at night getting drunk wearing slutty clothes that obviously garner a lot of attention for you (both good and bad no doubt), then you should realise that this is taking a risk. It doesn't mean you deserve to be raped, but it does mean that you're increasing the chances of the wrong kind of thing happening.
Unfortunately many of these people seem to think that being warned about the negative attention they may attract through dressing provocatively (it's surely called that for a reason) is sexism or telling them they deserve to be raped, which is completely untrue and wrong.
Please correct me if I am wrong on any of the following.
Your point is that provocatively dressed women aren't all gagging for it, and that their clothes aren't an excuse for sexual assault; however, some people treat is as such. We therefore agree that women should take note of the fact that their clothes may have unintended consequences - despite the fact that such consequences SHOULD NOT factor into their dress decisions, the real world dictates that it may be advisable to "just play it safe by not appearing like a ****".
Or am I an idiot?
Not sure if srs...