How is it even possible?

subbytna · 27 Jun 2011 at 11:02

In Belfast they say

"I'm going til the shop" instead of I'm going to the shop....amongst other things. Literacy is a problem thanks to the mobile phone "txt spk" generation. In my work(university) the kids have really bad English and it's noticable

Tefal · 27 Jun 2011 at 11:03

mothermachine said:
"We believe that the person we are looking for is a..."

Oh. So you mean that you've no conclusive proof of anything, and possibly no evidence whatsoever, but you're going to say this in such a way that the general public will think it's fact? Thanks for that. I wish people understood what "to believe" actually means. Police use it all the time, incorrectly.

no they use it correctly, as at the time evidence points to a person fitting that description, but later on it could be found that the evidence (ie a witness statement) was incorrect.

what would you rather them say?

Possibly the person could might actually quite resemble a person fitting the description of X?

mothermachine · 27 Jun 2011 at 11:05

Tefal said:
no they use it correctly, as at the time evidence points to a person fitting that description, but later on it could be found that the evidence (ie a witness statement) was incorrect.

what would you rather them say?

Possibly the person could might actually quite resemble a person fitting the description of X?

Nope. To believe something is to accept that thing as truth/fact without conclusive proof/evidence. So what they are actually saying is "we KNOW XYZ but we don't have conclusive proof yet", which is obviously stupid and not a good way to go about one's business. What you think they are saying is "We think XYZ but have no proof yet". So what they *ought* to be saying is "We *think* XYZ and will gather proof" etc.

People don't use the word "think" any more. They replace it with "believe" because they think it makes them sound more passionate or posh. In reality it makes them sound entirely stupid, because they fail to understand what they're trying to get across. And, of course, stating something as fact without conclusive evidence is just bad.

It's more than just that one word, too. People try to sound "posh" by using "David took Sylvia and I to the cinema". Er... no. Just take the other person out of the picture and say it back to yourself - "David took I to the cinema". Wrong. So it's "me". It only takes a fraction of a second to do this before one needs to speak, to avoid sounding like a fool.

mothermachine · 27 Jun 2011 at 11:07

subbytna said:
In Belfast they say

"I'm going til the shop" instead of I'm going to the shop....amongst other things. Literacy is a problem thanks to the mobile phone "txt spk" generation. In my work(university) the kids have really bad English and it's noticable

I've heard this myself but from a lad from up north. They often say "9 while 5" meaning "9 until 5". Makes no sense at all!

Haggisman · 27 Jun 2011 at 11:09

One of my friends is constantly using brought instead of bought. In fact I pimp slap her upside the head every time she does it. (It's possible I just seriously berate her instead...)

The other one you get down here the Wes'country is stick "to" on the end of any sentence which even remotely references a location, e.g. "where are you to?" "Where was that to?"

Grr!!

Marshstyles · 27 Jun 2011 at 11:25

Reminds me of David Mitchell's soapbox on grammer.

clicky

How do i embed stuff on here?

I think it's very easy to mix up brought/bought. I was taught to spell out my works and when i say brought/bought they sound the same. I suppose it depends what accent you have or where you're from in the country?

denby · 27 Jun 2011 at 11:25

mothermachine said:
I've heard this myself but from a lad from up north. They often say "9 while 5" meaning "9 until 5". Makes no sense at all!

there's nothing wrong with while ...its a passage of time

denby · 27 Jun 2011 at 11:26

saying "at the end of the day....." every second sentence

Tefal · 27 Jun 2011 at 11:27

mothermachine said:
Nope. To believe something is to accept that thing as truth/fact without conclusive proof/evidence. So what they are actually saying is "we KNOW XYZ but we don't have conclusive proof yet", which is obviously stupid and not a good way to go about one's business. What you think they are saying is "We think XYZ but have no proof yet". So what they *ought* to be saying is "We *think* XYZ and will gather proof" etc.

No you're wrong.

Go look it up.

Richdog · 27 Jun 2011 at 11:28

Marshstyles said:
I was taught to spell out my works

Indeed, and taught well.

Marshstyles · 27 Jun 2011 at 11:39

Richdog said:
Indeed, and taught well.

d'oh!

Davepen · 27 Jun 2011 at 11:40

Tell you what really grinds me gears!

"I could care less" Implying that you don't care(!!!) even heard this on a Game of Thrones episode, I was shocked and appalled!

Seems its an Americanism, and pure retardation of "I couldn't care less"

Skully · 27 Jun 2011 at 12:06

I sometimes pass a second hand car dealership that has the following sign in big red letters.

'Cars brought for cash!'

:rolleyes:

ChrisB · 27 Jun 2011 at 12:27

Skully said:
I sometimes pass a second hand car dealership that has the following sign in big red letters.

'Cars brought for cash!'

Where are they brought from?

freak2002 · 27 Jun 2011 at 14:26

For me its -

"Just need to Arks him a question" or Axe him a question.

Its ASK retard!

Pestilence · 27 Jun 2011 at 14:32

Pixture.

ChrisB · 27 Jun 2011 at 14:35

Pestilence said:
Pixture.

http://www.pixture.com ?

matt_fsr · 27 Jun 2011 at 14:35

Skully said:
I sometimes pass a second hand car dealership that has the following sign in big red letters.

'Cars brought for cash!'

Post photo.

Humiliation required

bledd · 27 Jun 2011 at 14:36

I heard someone say "wented" on some airport show the other day

"We wented on holiday, my uncle paided it for us to go"

Yikes

cokecan · 27 Jun 2011 at 14:42

I'm not normally one to join the ranks of grammer nazi's as I'm probably just as bad as a lot of people with grammer and spelling but:

"That'll learn them!".....errr you mean 'teach' right?