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Teachers on strike
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day off school ?
In my posts i'm trying to argue against the people who claim that teachers should be subject to cuts because they don't work very hard and should leave if they don't like it. I'm not sure what has to happen to make the balance sheet add up, maybe these cuts are absolutely necessary, but what i don't like seeing is the public sector being attacked by the private sector with use of stupid myths about people who don't understand the public sector - which evidently many people don't in this thread.
I've already explained why that isn't an option to the majority of public sector workers and i really wish people would stop spouting rubbish like that.
My experience is that the private sector pay varies from one extreme to the other, whereas this is much less so in the public sector. For example, the public sector generally provides an "alright" basic wage - ie. no one is paid a pittance, unlike some who are in the private sector. But then again, in the public sector very few are paid "well" unlike the private sector in which high pay is very possible after, say, 10 years in.
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Do I not pay my taxes? I wasn't really referring to funding.. Maybe I should have chosen my words more carefully.. "Public" would have been better..
Teachers aside, it's not one day of industrial dispute though is it? If it's not this it'll be some one or something else.. Tubes, Rail, councils.. etc etc.. It all adds up in terms of cost to the public, which the workers themselves are a part of. What goes around..
Strip away the government's rhetoric ("unaffordable", "untenable") and the empirical truth is that ministers are forcing workers to take another pay cut, forcing them to pick up the tab for a crisis that they did not cause. The public might be on the side of ministers, for now at least, but the facts are on the side of the unions.
There is the percentage and a bit I was talking about.
All these schemes should go, to be honest, as they all make no sense.
I've spent too much time already arguing with people who refuse to acknowledge that they haven't got a clue about how public sector workers (ie teachers) work, so i'm afraid i'm going to stop and have a spot of lunch.
Oh and i have to add, lol i had no idea that i typed "her" and it certainly wasn't a calculated plan to make public sector workers or females look poor and innocent in order to generate sympathy like you think it was. How long did you spend analysing every part my post? Paranoia much?!
Responding to libertarian nonsense with similar nonsense
P.s. i love you gifs. Please never stop posting them no matter what anyone says. <3
I couldn't possibly say. I suspect you do however although that is largely trivial, there will be tax payers out there who do not feel they have been held to ransom. I can appreciate the logic you use to come to your conclusion, but it isn't a rugby huddle where the outcome is 'come on, lets **** of the tax payers'. That may be a by product, it isn't the ignitor.
Well it is for the teachers at the present.
It may cost the economy, it doesn't cost the public in terms of cash as strike action saves the government and local authorities significant amounts of wages. It is an inconvienence but I haven't been effect by all those events and are unlikely to do so that is how I have a different perspective I suspect.
Don't get why everyone wants everyone else to be miserable like them. 
If you are putting lots of hours into work and feel that your being made to do more than anyone else, surely you shouldn't be complaining that others are doing less hours, you should be complaining about the slave you've become?
I agree that the government has done a great job of divide and conquer to force their way.
If the tories are sooo great like some people 'here' clearly think, why don't they take a huge pay cut to lead by example? Why doesn't Cameron work for free? Why are we spending money on attacking Libya that apparently we didn't have? If that money was meant for defence, haven't we just blown a massive hole in our defence budget then?
It's nice to see people looking out for one another, but honestly what's to gain with the backstabbing?
If you are putting lots of hours into work and feel that your being made to do more than anyone else, surely you shouldn't be complaining that others are doing less hours, you should be complaining about the slave you've become?
I agree that the government has done a great job of divide and conquer to force their way.
If the tories are sooo great like some people 'here' clearly think, why don't they take a huge pay cut to lead by example? Why doesn't Cameron work for free? Why are we spending money on attacking Libya that apparently we didn't have? If that money was meant for defence, haven't we just blown a massive hole in our defence budget then?
It's nice to see people looking out for one another, but honestly what's to gain with the backstabbing?
I'm currently working in public sector for the record, the actual level of work that gets done ASTOUNDS me, and not in a good sense. Enjoy your no doubt subsidised lunch
About 10 seconds, I spotted it almost instantly lol
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As has been happening for a while hence the need for Govt bribes.
I was talking on average and said that if money was the driving factor then people will go and find better money / package else where.
It is quite obvious that I am not saying that it is not possible to get better paid jobs in the private sector.
You can see how that mild hypocrisy only inflames opinion though?
My girlfriend is using strike day to do report writing.
I fully support the strike, you don't walk into a restaurant look at the menu and place your order, then expect them to change the prices before the bill arrives. We cannot afford to loose £88.00 a month out of our household income...which is what they are now asking my girlfriend to pay.
If they want to change the rules than change them for new teachers starting next year.
I fully support the strike, you don't walk into a restaurant look at the menu and place your order, then expect them to change the prices before the bill arrives. We cannot afford to loose £88.00 a month out of our household income...which is what they are now asking my girlfriend to pay.
If they want to change the rules than change them for new teachers starting next year.
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Which hypocrisy is that?
Oh do pipe down. Why the hell are they going on strike if it isn't to campaign at one of the various rallies? I guess you can't see the hypocrisy in that. Oh well.
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I don't understand what people are getting at with saying "if you don't like it then leave". What do you think would happen if every teacher on strike today just resigned? What would happen then? The country would be royally ******.
My mum is on strike today she is the Foundation and KS1 coordinator at her school and the amount of work she does outside of her hours of pay is ridiculous. In school from 7:30 till 5 most days but 6 on wednesdays and fridays for meetings then in school every day, when she gets home at 6-7 she has dinner then sits down with a pile of marking to do which usually takes her till 9-10, during half term and for 2-3 weeks at the end of every term she is up till 2-3am doing reports. Most weekends she has meetings at our house with other teachers and TAs going over lesson plans etc. People who say that techers get plenty of holiday are being ignorant of the amount of extra work teachers do with no pay.
For the government to then turn around and tell the profession that allows all you private sector nonces to have your "oh so very difficult boo-hoo" jobs that they will have to work for longer and have less money to retire on is a joke. My mum is 50 this year and faces losing 88k from her pension and having to pay an extra £150 each month from her pay packet. It is bull****.
My mum is on strike today she is the Foundation and KS1 coordinator at her school and the amount of work she does outside of her hours of pay is ridiculous. In school from 7:30 till 5 most days but 6 on wednesdays and fridays for meetings then in school every day, when she gets home at 6-7 she has dinner then sits down with a pile of marking to do which usually takes her till 9-10, during half term and for 2-3 weeks at the end of every term she is up till 2-3am doing reports. Most weekends she has meetings at our house with other teachers and TAs going over lesson plans etc. People who say that techers get plenty of holiday are being ignorant of the amount of extra work teachers do with no pay.
For the government to then turn around and tell the profession that allows all you private sector nonces to have your "oh so very difficult boo-hoo" jobs that they will have to work for longer and have less money to retire on is a joke. My mum is 50 this year and faces losing 88k from her pension and having to pay an extra £150 each month from her pay packet. It is bull****.
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