Teachers on strike

platypus · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:29

Gaygle said:
What are they supposed to do? Stay and home and cry themselves to sleep? They're not being paid for it so they are entitled to do whatever the hell they want.

Obviously you don't agree with this - perhaps you can explain why?

As above. Certainly in Cambridge there is a rally going on which they've chosen to ignore. Whats the point in striking if its just for a day off drinking?

platypus · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:30

Forde said:
So, to sum up the thread...

1) People who actually know what is involved in teaching support teachers.
2) People who don't know what is involved in teaching don't support teachers and think they should 'suck it up'.

True?

Maybe it's true in your own little world..

Skii · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:31

MookJong said:
I fully support the strike, you don't walk into a restaurant look at the menu and place your order, then expect them to change the prices before the bill arrives. We cannot afford to loose £88.00 a month out of our household income...which is what they are now asking my girlfriend to pay.

go to a different restaurant then.

wildman · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:31

Panzerbjorn said:
I bet all of those saying "if you don't like it, leave" are the same people who will be crying in five years time about the state of the education system and how poor it is.

can it get any worse ?

and again thats just blackmail talk

give me more money and better pension or i am telling you in a few years time you'll be sorry !! I must remember to use that line next time I am at my annual performance review

C.R.A.Z.Y · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:32

gropingmantis said:
I don't understand what people are getting at with saying "if you don't like it then leave". W hat do you think would happen if every teacher on strike today just resigned? What would happen then? The country would be royally ******.

My mum is on strike today she is the Foundation and KS1 coordinator at her school and the amount of work she doues outside of her hours of pay is ridiculous. In school from 7:30 till 5 most days but 6 on wednesdays and fridays for meetings then in school every day during half term and for 2-3 weeks at the end of every term she is up till 2-3am doing reports. Most weekends she has meetings at our house with other teachers and TAs going over lesson plans etc. People who say that techers get plenty of holiday are being ignorant of the amount of extra work teachers do with no pay.
For the government to then turn around and tell the profession that allows all you private sector nonces to have your "oh so very difficult boo-hoo" jobs that they will have to work for longer and have less money to retire on is a joke. My mum is 50 this year and faces losing 88k from her pension and having to pay an extra £150 each moneth from her pay packet. It is bull****.

+1 Agree 100%

My mum is on strike today and guess what she's doing RIGHT NOW and has been all morning? Yes that's right SCHOOL WORK and planning.
Idiots seem to think that when teachers go home that's it :rolleyes:

Get a clue!

topshot · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:32

MookJong said:
My girlfriend is using strike day to do report writing.

I fully support the strike, you don't walk into a restaurant look at the menu and place your order, then expect them to change the prices before the bill arrives. We cannot afford to loose £88.00 a month out of our household income...which is what they are now asking my girlfriend to pay.

If they want to change the rules than change them for new teachers starting next year.

You somehow fail to see the need to make these cuts. They are not doing it for fun or because they just decided to halfway through. They cam to government with huge debts etc. These need to be addressed, its happening to private sector, why should teachers be any different?

if you cant afford to lose 88quid i would suggest reviewing your financial position as things are going to get tougher before they get better

Delvis · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:33

platypus said:
Oh do pipe down. Why the hell are they going on strike if it isn't to campaign at one of the various rallies? I guess you can't see the hypocrisy in that. Oh well.

Because a lot of teachers ARE on strike, and guess what, if there aren't enough teachers in the school to cover those year groups, they won't be teaching those year groups...The students will not be coming in

topshot · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:34

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
+1 Agree 100%

My mum is on strike today and guess what she's doing RIGHT NOW and has been all morning? Yes that's right SCHOOL WORK and planning.
Idiots seem to think that when teachers go home that's it Get a clue!

but they dont do a full 40hours a week teaching in school? so they should expect to work at home :confused:

gropingmantis · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:35

wildman said:
can it get any worse ?

and again thats just blackmail talk

give me more money and better pension or i am telling you in a few years time you'll be sorry !! I must remember to use that line next time I am at my annual performance review

Its not as easy to just move jobs as a teacher as you think. Where else can you go other than to private schools where teachers get payed even less and work even longer hours as many private schools have saturday classes.

Draeger · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:35

gropingmantis said:
I don't understand what people are getting at with saying "if you don't like it then leave".

In every single thread about industrial action being taken by a group of workers, there are always posts by clueless individuals who say "If they don't like it then leave and get another job".

It is after all a very informed, rational and intelligent comment to make. :rolleyes:

Delvis · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:35

topshot said:
but they dont do a full 40hours a week teaching in school? so they should expect to work at home

From 7 till 10? Your average joe doesn't work those hours

C.R.A.Z.Y · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:36

topshot said:
They cam to government with huge debts etc.r

Actually the debts are less then when Labour got in after the war and they managed to cope and even setup the NHS in that time!

MookJong · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:36

gropingmantis said:
I don't understand what people are getting at with saying "if you don't like it then leave". What do you think would happen if every teacher on strike today just resigned? What would happen then? The country would be royally ******.

My mum is on strike today she is the Foundation and KS1 coordinator at her school and the amount of work she does outside of her hours of pay is ridiculous. In school from 7:30 till 5 most days but 6 on wednesdays and fridays for meetings then in school every day, when she gets home at 6-7 she has dinner then sits down with a pile of marking to do which usually takes her till 9-10, during half term and for 2-3 weeks at the end of every term she is up till 2-3am doing reports. Most weekends she has meetings at our house with other teachers and TAs going over lesson plans etc. People who say that techers get plenty of holiday are being ignorant of the amount of extra work teachers do with no pay.
For the government to then turn around and tell the profession that allows all you private sector nonces to have your "oh so very difficult boo-hoo" jobs that they will have to work for longer and have less money to retire on is a joke. My mum is 50 this year and faces losing 88k from her pension and having to pay an extra £150 each month from her pay packet. It is bull****.

Well said....

platypus · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:36

vonhelmet said:
And most of them will be attempting to close them, as their accounts will all have FRS 17 disclosures in there showing the massive hole in their schemes and what they are having to do about them, like making massive one-off contributions, or trying to buy people out of the schemes and into defined contribution or personal schemes.

Biohazard isn't one to let facts get in the way when he has a number to quote!

Tummy · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:37

Yep. Full support for Teachers strike, Parents are taking part and my Dad is speaking at a Rally. Full support for the strike action of the public services.

Right wing breeding ground on here

Anyway, back to my holiday !

love having wireless internet and a MacBook Pro in Copenhagen.

platypus · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:37

Delvis said:
Because a lot of teachers ARE on strike, and guess what, if there aren't enough teachers in the school to cover those year groups, they won't be teaching those year groups...The students will not be coming in

Yeah and you've jumped on my post because you think I was having a dig at teachers, when I wasn't, I was having a dig in particular at the teachers I personally know who have voted to strike and arranged a day out on the lash.

C.R.A.Z.Y · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:38

topshot said:
but they dont do a full 40hours a week teaching in school? so they should expect to work at home

WTF are you talking about :rolleyes:

Door to door my mum does 50 hours a week and she only works 25mins away!

topshot · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:38

Delvis said:
From 7 till 10? Your average joe doesn't work those hours

oh please, you expect us to believe teachers work 15hours a day everyday?

Morba · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:38

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
+1 Agree 100%

My mum is on strike today and guess what she's doing RIGHT NOW and has been all morning? Yes that's right SCHOOL WORK and planning.
Idiots seem to think that when teachers go home that's it Get a clue!

On strike but not on strike? odd.

arknor · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:39

Delvis said:
From 7 till 10? Your average joe doesn't work those hours

then your doing it wrong