Why do people buy into apple BS?

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Tute said:
It'd need more than one hard-ass mod as it'd be needed to be watched closely 20+ hours a day.

It works as it is, really. I remember the poll at the time, and thinking "How many of those who voted for it to be moved are just trolls who want iPhone threads back in the MP forum so they can go on the rampage?". ;)

Generally, those with brains want it kept separate, and rightly so.
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I was just watching the Ireland problem on Sky News and thinking 'Christ! Its as bad on these forums (re: apple/Android wars).

Something should be done about it before it spills into other forums, segregation is surely only a short term fix.
 
I don't dislike apple, I love my iphone, however I dislike the way apple overcharge and make you pay through the nose for stuff when they use the same components as everyone else.

Also I dislike Steve Jobs, he's a pathetic excuse for a human being.
 
Robbo said:
I don't know one person with an iPhone that bought it because it's fashionable. Most of them have it due to the marketing appealing to them and the fact they actually like it.

They try my Android phones and tend to go "What a load of confusing stuff, I don't need that :confused:"
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Sounds like my other half.
She's not stupid by any means, there's just something about IOS / Iphone which 'clicks' with her..
The brief period i had a Desire she was like 'ehh, this things a confusing bag of crap'
 
SteveOBHave said:
One could argue that point about quite a bit of GD... But I personally think that Apple is moving away from providing a great service and being technology innovators to being a company that is attempting to capture their customers and subsequently empty their wallets. That IMO is worthy of debate.
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High-end smartphones, W7+HTC+Samsung e.t.c cost the same as an iPhone. Whos laughing now ....
 
Basher said:
People buy apple products because there is a perception that they will just 'work'. Specs are irrelevant, what matters is perceived performance and the actual experience of the user. Apple have done a good job at wrapping products up and delivering them as part of a whole product solution, including other elements required to get value from the purchase (e.g. Apps). Their walled garden will ultimately be their downfall. They will not achieve anywhere near the growth that Android is/will due to their go to market model.

As the market becomes more mature, people will of course expect much, much more of apple and thy're doing pretty well at delivering that today - but as soon as Jobs goes, they're in trouble...
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I'd actually move away from Apple if they dropped their approach though. The whole "vetting" the App Store stops the drivel and crap from getting in. When I was downloading apps on my Desire it was an utter lottery, I didn't know what I was getting. Most of them just didn't work at all.

There's also the risk of malware getting on there. Google can issue a kill command on the app but by then it might well be too late.

I see it as a sort of "virus scanner". Until phones become powerful enough to run malware/virus scanning within the OS, Apple's approach will have to do.
 
Alpherah said:
Sounds like my other half.
She's not stupid by any means, there's just something about IOS / Iphone which 'clicks' with her..
The brief period i had a Desire she was like 'ehh, this things a confusing bag of crap'
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So true. My wife is fed up with her wildfire and much prefers the idea of an iphone now after playing with my boys ipod touch.
 
Alpherah said:
I was just watching the Ireland problem on Sky News and thinking 'Christ! Its as bad on these forums (re: apple/Android wars).

Something should be done about it before it spills into other forums, segregation is surely only a short term fix.
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Just have an Approid forum. Stick them all in it and lock the door. :D
 
Tute said:
I'd actually move away from Apple if they dropped their approach though. The whole "vetting" the App Store stops the drivel and crap from getting in. When I was downloading apps on my Desire it was an utter lottery, I didn't know what I was getting. Most of them just didn't work at all.

There's also the risk of malware getting on there. Google can issue a kill command on the app but by then it might well be too late.

I see it as a sort of "virus scanner". Until phones become powerful enough to run malware/virus scanning within the OS, Apple's approach will have to do.
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Absolutely and it's that verification of apps that has enabled them to take to market a message of simplicity/ease of use.

However, it's not an approach that scales in the same way that Android does. It's never going to be a platform that outsells Android, but, I'm not sure want it to be.
 
Robbo said:
I don't know one person with an iPhone that bought it because it's fashionable. Most of them have it due to the marketing appealing to them and the fact they actually like it.

They try my Android phones and tend to go "What a load of confusing stuff, I don't need that :confused:"



And you can do the exact same with an iPhone 4, and the iPhone 5 will improve upon that even more...
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I know several people who did. My old iPhone 3G was stalked by 4 different people who couldn't afford an iPhone but wanted it due to it being an apple product. When I sold it to one of them they walked around like they had just won the Euromillions.

For me Apple products do what the do very well and to some degree should cost more than a generic item. Because they're a quality product, not because they're a fashion accessory, which in my experience is what many people want one for.
 
gropingmantis said:
I have no problem with anything Apple related apart from the pricing. Thats it. If someone can justify Apple pricing then I will happily concede that Apple are the greatest company on the planet.
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This, and this is why there is apple bashing. Apple always market stuff like it's the second coming. Granted thats what a company is supposed to do when selling it, but they do it in such a way that it feels misleading if you dont know about the hardware they sell in general.
Even their promo events are like cult meetings.
The pricing just makes me feel like they market the product as a fashion accessory and they take advantage of customers who don't want to do any research.
People buy for the brand and the image that has been created that nothing will go wrong with their products.
Maybe it's because apple users just take the product to the store if they have a problem and so don't feel the need to rant about it or look for an answer online.


I dont want to comment further in this thread so don't bother replying to me :P
 
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Frenzy said:
This, and this is why there is apple bashing. Apple always market stuff like it's the second coming.
Even their promo events are like cult meetings.
The pricing just makes me feel like they market the product as a fashion accessory and they take advantage of customers who don't want to do any research.
People buy for the brand and the image that has been created that nothing will go wrong with their products.
Maybe it's because apple users just take the product to the store if they have a problem and so don't feel the need to rant about it or look for an answer online.


I dont want to comment further in this thread so don't bother replying to me :P
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Reply! Too late .. mwaahaha :p
 
Frenzy said:
This, and this is why there is apple bashing. Apple always market stuff like it's the second coming.
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Well, yeah, wouldn't you do the same if it clearly works?

They aren't doing anything wrong.

easyrider said:
No I woud need to take my HD camcorder as the iphone 4 does not record 1080p
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There isn't a big difference between the two. Did you miss my earlier post about the iPhone 4 being a year older than the Galaxy S II, etc?

Or did you just ignore it as it's putting your silly arguments to bed.
 
easyrider said:
No I woud need to take my HD camcorder as the iphone 4 does not record 1080p
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1080 vs 720p in the real world isnt such a big issue, as i said earlier the vast majority of the UK dont even have TV's which can play 1080p yet.

Also the jump in quality from SD -> 720p was huge, 720p -> 1080p is much much smaller.
 
Basher said:
People buy apple products because there is a perception that they will just 'work'.
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And they do just 'work' :p

I was talking to someone I know the oher day about my San Francisco, and yes, the customisation is good and appealing, but a lot of every day users don't want that...they want the phone to work, you shouldn't have to buy the phone only to then strip it down yourself to make it work faster :p

That, and the whole apple range is a god send to some people, it all talks to each other, you can control practically everything in your house from one device, etc etc etc. What's not to like? Yes it's expensive, and its one reason I don't own any of their products.

Also OP, you never answered my question about your Samsung, is it stock or not? :)
 
Robbo said:
Well, yeah, wouldn't you do the same if it clearly works?

They aren't doing anything wrong.
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It does sound like a lot of people use Apple's marketing as a stick to beat them with, when instead they should be saying "why doesn't my <favourite brand here> market themselves properly .."
 
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