Do you tip the pizza delivery man?

Ahleckz · 17 Jul 2011 at 17:35

crinkleshoes said:
To take it further... does anyone tip their postman? Citylink/parcelforce/etc etc?

They have a much harder job (targets etc from what I've heard) and usually provide a better service than take-away delivery drivers for the same kind of money?

That's rubbish, the service from couriers is hilariously bad. Probably because they know they'll never get a tip.

Meaker said:
You could well make them loose money as in many cases they pay to serve a table. So not leaving a tip is pretty much a slap in the face.

In the UK? I don't believe you.

SB118 · 17 Jul 2011 at 17:37

[TW]Fox;19602597 said:
Thats a shame. Maybe they should do something where they actually can add value to the process - because to be frank, delivering food that a customer has paid for does not really give much scope for paying extra for better service, does it?

The system relies on the goodwill of the customer, which has been getting thinner as the "spare" cash has been reduced. (never reduced enough to cancel the food order though, obviously!)

Morgoth said:
They must get at least the national minimum wage which isn't that bad.

Yeah, but they have insurance, fuel and vehicle upkeep costs that others don't.

As i said, the work is taken on with the "knowledge" (hope) that customer tips will top the wages up.

[TW]Fox · 17 Jul 2011 at 17:38

SB118 said:
The system relies on the goodwill of the customer, which has been getting thinner as the "spare" cash has been reduced. (never reduced enough to cancel the food order though, obviously!)

The 'system' being the 'expoitation' of staff by business owners? Although to be fair how can delivering a pizza really justify any more than minimum wage anyway? I assume they are paid minimum wage?

Deleted User 234324 · 17 Jul 2011 at 17:41

Surely though these delivery drivers can claim travel expenses which i believe is currently set at 42p/mile by the government. If your not you can claim back the difference through tax anyway afaik.

If your not getting travel costs covered then your being ripped off.

[TW]Fox · 17 Jul 2011 at 17:42

Expecting customers to sub the delivery drivers when your advertising model is based around 'Free delivery' is comical at best.

Or it would be, if you didn't pay 20 quid for the pizza in the first place.

crinkleshoes · 17 Jul 2011 at 17:44

Ahleckz said:
That's rubbish, the service from couriers is hilariously bad. Probably because they know they'll never get a tip.

Do you really get a service from your takeaway delivery driver(s) that far surpasses that of your postman/courier?

Especially to the extent that it deserves paying more for what you've already paid for/are about to pay for which pays the guys wage anyway :confused:

I frequently provide exceptional service to the clients I work for, far above and beyond what any waiter/delivery driver has ever done for me... Do I expect a tip? Of course not... Do I have to provide the level of service I usually do? Rarely... but it reflects well on the business and subsequently me. Yet... no tip! What am I doing wrong!?!? :eek:

crinkleshoes · 17 Jul 2011 at 17:46

SB118 said:
As i said, the work is taken on with the "knowledge" (hope) that customer tips will top the wages up.

We already knew they had to be stupid/desperate to take the job in the first place... I really can't understand why we should expect to pay more / they should expect handouts to top up their wage.

Its tantamount to begging!

bastic · 17 Jul 2011 at 17:48

I never tip delivery guys.
But do tip in restaurants - depending on the service of course ( used to work in restaurant business so am picky )

Chris. · 17 Jul 2011 at 17:50

I don't, but that's because he's usually a jackass driving it to me in his (badly) modified Saxo.

(Disclaimer: I do not or have not ever hated saxo drivers, even modified ones as some run up to 180Bhp and are mental, however badly modified chav boxes offend me and should all be torched for giving tuning a bad name.)

Lol, had to make myself clear there....

crinkleshoes · 17 Jul 2011 at 17:51

[TW]Fox;19603138 said:
The 'system' being the 'expoitation' of staff by business owners? Although to be fair how can delivering a pizza really justify any more than minimum wage anyway? I assume they are paid minimum wage?

Exactly... it's a very low-skilled job... why does it deserve any more than minimum wage?

There are people on assembly lines doing incredibly repetative boring things / people stacking shelves / working in warehouses / etc etc...

I would much prefer to be delivering pizzas than the above... why should they get paid more than the people who don't have the opportunity to earn the tips and yet do just as important menial jobs?

Chris. · 17 Jul 2011 at 17:52

bastic said:
I never tip delivery guys.
But do tip in restaurants - depending on the service of course ( used to work in restaurant business so am picky )

Always tip in restaurants as long as waiters keep it, and get embarrassed when mates dont.

however if it doesnt all go to the guy who's worked for it then I dont like to.

Dewotter · 17 Jul 2011 at 18:04

Keep the change.

Meaker · 17 Jul 2011 at 18:06

Ahleckz said:
That's rubbish, the service from couriers is hilariously bad. Probably because they know they'll never get a tip.

In the UK? I don't believe you.

We were talking about the US.

kylew · 17 Jul 2011 at 18:06

Chris [BEANS];19602537 said:
This.

I'm actually a little bit embarrassed to read some peoples replies

You're really embarrassed that people aren't falling over themselves to pay more than the advertised price for things?

The logic of tipping is weird anyway, the way people pick and choose who to tip. Why don't you tip in every situation where you're buying something? Why not tip the checkout staff at the supermarket for scanning all your shopping, they've only done what they're being paid to do, after all and they're not making a huge amount of money...

Should I start expecting tips in to my PayPal account if I give some one on here help or advice about something?

ng93 · 17 Jul 2011 at 18:20

I don't get how people choose who to give a tip. I've never heard of anyone tipping the fireman that saved their life, or the midwife who delivered their child, but plenty will tip the pizza delivery boy. :confused:

Gangster · 17 Jul 2011 at 18:21

never tip, anywhere.

SB118 · 17 Jul 2011 at 18:29

[TW]Fox;19603138 said:
The 'system' being the 'expoitation' of staff by business owners? Although to be fair how can delivering a pizza really justify any more than minimum wage anyway? I assume they are paid minimum wage?

Minimum wage, yup. As i've said, the minimum wage is taken on with the expectation of tips to round things up. The job has higher outgoings than the usual till operator/shelf stacker/waitress. As it happens she's looking to go back to waitressing when she goes back to work. (still got a few weeks before she gives up this job, ties in nicely with her insurance policy running out so her next policy won't need business mileage on it)

[TW]Fox;19603173 said:
Expecting customers to sub the delivery drivers when your advertising model is based around 'Free delivery' is comical at best.

Or it would be, if you didn't pay 20 quid for the pizza in the first place.

Where my wife works the minimum order is £8.50, bit cheaper than Dominos i suppose.

crinkleshoes said:
We already knew they had to be stupid/desperate to take the job in the first place...

And now the insults have started i'll bow out of this discussion.

ShaolinDreams · 17 Jul 2011 at 18:30

Only restaurants if the service was decent but a pizza delivery guy? LOL get out of here!

Ahleckz · 17 Jul 2011 at 18:49

crinkleshoes said:
Do you really get a service from your takeaway delivery driver(s) that far surpasses that of your postman/courier?

Especially to the extent that it deserves paying more for what you've already paid for/are about to pay for which pays the guys wage anyway

I frequently provide exceptional service to the clients I work for, far above and beyond what any waiter/delivery driver has ever done for me... Do I expect a tip? Of course not... Do I have to provide the level of service I usually do? Rarely... but it reflects well on the business and subsequently me. Yet... no tip! What am I doing wrong!?!?

I'm currently a home shopping driver, and I like to think that I give far better service than the postman/courier. I also don't expect a tip and I'm very grateful (and say so) when I get one. I also go beyond what I need to do.
I'm not saying tipping is right or wrong, I'm staying on the fence. What I am saying is that, some, delivery men do provide greater service than couriers/posties.

With me, if people want to tip me then great. I like to think that I deserve them (I'm not going to test this theory out by being a git to my usual 'tippers') but in no way do I expect them or think that they bolster my wage. My wage is crap, but it's all I can get and at least I'm working.

As for the delivery costs, the costs for delivering your pizza is probably the same as the price we charge for groceries. Yet I'm lugging multiple kilos up flights of stairs, multiple times. I'm far more deserving! I'd say I'm far more deserving

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arknor · 17 Jul 2011 at 18:52

Meaker said:
You could well make them loose money as in many cases they pay to serve a table. So not leaving a tip is pretty much a slap in the face.

dont give me that rubbish... even in america they have to be paid minimum wage they dont earn half a wage and only over minimum if the tips make up the difference...

if the staff dont earn wage+tips that meets a minimum wage then the employer has to pay them the difference , they dont lose money because the tax man assumes they will get tips dont even try that one why do you think people get tax refunds?