BBC Cuts..

Bernie already said if F1 left BBC, which it couldn't for 1 or 2 more season I think, he said most likely go to 5 and "talk to Desmond".
 
It doesn't matter - it shouldn't be in the BBC's remit. I can't see how it offers a wider good that otherwise wouldn't be fulfilled by commercial broadcasting.

:confused: that would thus include all sport and most of there programs. Basically anything that isn't news or educational.

F1 gets huge viewing figures and who else is going to buy it? Itv is more or less bankrupt and pants and it has to stay free to air. More than likely nothing more than contract is up soon and trying to get a better price.

They can't drop it till the end of the contract anyway.
 
They can't drop it till the end of the contract anyway.

They can drop it anytime they like. However, would still have to pay for the remaining term of the contract. So if they drop it end of this season will still cost them something like £45 million for next season, but they save millions by not producing any programming. ITV dropped it with 2 seasons left on contract
 
They can drop it anytime they like. However, would still have to pay for the remaining term of the contract. So if they drop it end of this season will still cost them something like £45 million for next season, but they save millions by not producing any programming. ITV dropped it with 2 seasons left on contract

No they can't. They would be sued to hell and back, for breech of contract. The races have to be aired. Only way to drop it is if some one else buys the rights. If no one buys the rights, BBC has no choice but to continue airing it.
 
they wont cut the wildlife budget. they are among the best sellers they have. the production of the BBC wildlife department is unrivalled the world over. as a result they resell those programs globally at huge profits.
 
It has to be able to operate as a company and make it's own decicions on what to broadcast, or it'll be doomed.
National insurance is taken from me for what is essentially the 'greater good'. The TV license fee is also taken from me for supposedly the same reason...

I support BBC independence, but it should have a 'greater good' charter. If they want to equate independence and making its own decisions on what to broadcast to the dumb race-to-the-intellectual-bottom ratings war with ITV, then they can make the license fee voluntary.

I'm talking about Formula 1 (which I am a big fan of) stuff like Dancing on Ice, essentially anything that is produced on BBC3 (albeit some of their comedy and social stuff is god).
 
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They can drop it anytime they like. However, would still have to pay for the remaining term of the contract. So if they drop it end of this season will still cost them something like £45 million for next season, but they save millions by not producing any programming. ITV dropped it with 2 seasons left on contract
F1 television rights != mobile phone contract ;):p

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
:confused: that would thus include all sport and most of there programs. Basically anything that isn't news or educational.

F1 gets huge viewing figures and who else is going to buy it? Itv is more or less bankrupt and pants and it has to stay free to air. More than likely nothing more than contract is up soon and trying to get a better price.

They can't drop it till the end of the contract anyway.


More than anything I believe this talk will be related to renewing the contract, even if it remains with BBC, Bernie will want more money. Touting the idea of taking it elsewhere means he can charge more for it.

Like you say though, F1 on the BBC has been getting huge figures. Media speculation is that it can't be allowed to go to Sky and the only company which could potentially buy the rights is Channel 4.

It would be terrible to go back to ad breaks, but that's really the only way the rights going to a non PSB could be funded.

BBCs documentaries, especially it's nature ones are another item I'm happy to pay the licence fee for, so would be a shame if they get cut. I'm sorry but those complaining they are already terrible need to have their heads checked. Human Planet, Blue Planet etc were fantastic.

I have noticed already that the BBC have started taking programmes that were successful on BBC3 & started showing them on BBC1 which no doubts shows cuts in budgets.
 
No they can't. They would be sued to hell and back, for breech of contract. The races have to be aired. Only way to drop it is if some one else buys the rights. If no one buys the rights, BBC has no choice but to continue airing it.

Depends on what it says in the contract. Most contracts will have a break clause after a certain period of time, though there will probably be penalties. As has been pointed out, ITV did it.

they wont cut the wildlife budget. they are among the best sellers they have. the production of the BBC wildlife department is unrivalled the world over. as a result they resell those programs globally at huge profits.

BBC Wildlife in Bristol has had a dwindling budget for years. The profits aren't that huge as most of the BBC wildlife programmes are co-productions with the likes of Discovery.

Discovery put the cash in to get the programme made and in return they get the north American rights (the most lucrative market) and BBC is left with the rest of the world.

I have noticed already that the BBC have started taking programmes that were successful on BBC3 & started showing them on BBC1 which no doubts shows cuts in budgets.

Thats what BBC3 is for; it commissions new programmes that wouldn't normally make it though BBC1 and 2 comissioning processes and if they are successful they get transferred across.
 
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I'd be gutted if BBC can their F1 rights!
It will either go back to ITV, who were rubbish, or go to Sky Sports, which I don't have, and have on plans of getting.
 
Formula 1 and Documentaries are in the very small box marked "Things the BBC have done right" in the last decade.

If they scrapped them I would consider getting rid of my television and save myself a ton of money each month.
 
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Depends on what it says in the contract. Most contracts will have a break clause after a certain period of time, though there will probably be penalties. As has been pointed out, ITV did it.

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They did it because BBC purchase the other and so the races were broadcast, no other tv channel is really in a position to buy the rights. The races HAVE to be shown, it's in the contracts. There's no two ways about it, no ifs or buts. If no one else buys the rights, BBC have to broadcast till the end of contract.
 
They did it because BBC purchase the other and so the races were broadcast, no other tv channel is really in a position to buy the rights. The races HAVE to be shown, it's in the contracts. There's no two ways about it, no ifs or buts. If no one else buys the rights, BBC have to broadcast till the end of contract.

Read the contract have you?

Must admit I haven't but it's speculation on both our parts.
 
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Read the contract have you?

Must admit I haven't but it's speculation on both our parts.

No, but I'm well aware of what bernie does and that money made from tv rights, is a drop in the ocean compared to sponsorship. No tv broadcast huge drop in sponsorship. Hence why he is willing to take a hit on price to keep it of pay per view. I can guarantee that's exactly what the contract says. It's not really speculation, it's pretty common knowledge of bernie and tv rights.
 
No, but I'm well aware of what bernie does and that money made from tv rights, is a drop in the ocean compared to sponsorship. No tv broadcast huge drop in sponsorship. Hence why he is willing to take a hit on price to keep it of pay per view. I can guarantee that's exactly what the contract says. It's not really speculation, it's pretty common knowledge of bernie and tv rights.

I read 'No' and the rest doesn't really matter does it?

Similarly I could say that the BBC has policies that must be complied to when it comes to contract signing and whilst BBC commercial managers may want to sign a deal whatever the contract says their corporate lawyers will simply not allow it. One of these is that the contract must have an exit clause or the capacity to be terminated early.
 
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