Amy Winehouse found dead

easyrider · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:37

Pigeon_Killer said:
Exactly how I see it.

Ryan Dunn got a thread of RIPs for getting drunk and killing his best mate while speeding, Amy Winehouse gets a thread of people saying they're glad she's dead despite hurting no one but herself. Hard to fathom.

Indeed.

I'm so glad I'm educated and intelligent enough to see the bigger picture.

Emlyn_Dewar · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:40

Ryan Dunn was more deserving of what happened, both of these headline names did it to themselves though.
There are far more people on the planet who should receive our sympathy.

placeholder · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:41

easyrider said:
Indeed.

I'm so glad I'm educated and intelligent enough to see the bigger picture.

Im just glad you feel strongly enough to post about it.

marc2003 · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:41

Pigeon_Killer said:
Amy Winehouse gets a thread of people saying they're glad she's dead despite hurting no one but herself. Hard to fathom.

it's all down to appearance. musicians have abused drugs for years and for the most part the general public turn a blind eye. the difference for her is the before/after pictures.....

placeholder · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:42

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Ryan Dunn was more deserving of what happened, both of these headline names did it to themselves though.
There are far more people on the planet who should receive our sympathy.

Do you activly divide your sympathy up on a weekly basis?

If i lost my hand in an accident would you feel sympathy for me only until you heard of someone who lost an arm?

I dont get this "deserving of sympathy" nonsense. You either feel it or you dont.

Emlyn_Dewar · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:44

placeholder said:
Do you activly divide your sympathy up on a weekly basis?

If i lost my hand in an accident would you feel sympathy for me only until you heard of someone who lost an arm?

I dont get this "deserving of sympathy" nonsense. You either feel it or you dont.

Depends what you were doing to lose the hand, were you continuously putting near a high rpm spinning blade for the high that it provided?

mehuk · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:44

We should all lose a little bit of sleep over this tonight.

Redz · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:46

marc2003 said:
the difference for her is the before/after pictures.....

easyrider · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:47

Addicts don't want sympathy they want their fix. Nothing will stand in their way.

If you offer it then they really don't care. Only in sobriety will the addict appreciate that you were there for them and sympathetic to the addiction

placeholder · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:48

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Depends what you were doing to lose the hand, were you continuously putting near a high rpm spinning blade for the high that it provided?

Its that simple huh?

Emlyn_Dewar · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:50

Yes, especially for an incident like the one described.

[FnG]magnolia · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:51

I'd rather she wasn't dead.

placeholder · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:52

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Yes.

Thats a shame cos you are misunderstanding so badly.

As i say, think about it. Would you CHOOSE to end your life this way if the whole idea of addiction is as simple a choice as you seem to portray it?

Emlyn_Dewar · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:55

Possibly I wouldn't have cared, if I lived each day smacked out my face then it wouldn't really be a big deal. I obviously would have no care for friends or family, so whatever happened, including vomit choking death, it's all good.

Vonhelmet · 23 Jul 2011 at 22:59

easyrider said:
That would be suicide

People use Class A drugs successfully for years and become professional drug users.

How can you base jump without a parachute and live?

Based on the scenario, it would more likely be death by misadventure than suicide.

JKD · 23 Jul 2011 at 23:01

Should have been Pete Doherty instead. At least she had a couple of decent albums before turning crack ho.

Vonhelmet · 23 Jul 2011 at 23:02

easyrider said:
I don't base creativity and talent on whether someone does drugs...I couldn't care less.

Basing one's Taste or judgement on "Art" or "Genuis" on drug use is foolish at best.

If she had of drunk herself to death then this is different than injecting brown?

BS

Huh? That's not what I said at all. I didn't comment on whether drug use is an indictment on a person's talent or creativity. I said that a persons's drug use may lead to an unsurprising drug related death, and that sympathy may therefore be limited.

placeholder · 23 Jul 2011 at 23:02

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Possibly I wouldn't have cared, if I lived each day smacked out my face then it wouldn't really be a big deal. I obviously would have no care for friends or family, so whatever happened, including vomit choking death, it's all good.

So you accept that the person is poweless over their addiction?

Thats progress.

no_sleep_til · 23 Jul 2011 at 23:03

RIP Amy. i wasn't a fan of your style of music, but what an incredible voice!

Vonhelmet · 23 Jul 2011 at 23:04

[FnG]magnolia;19652615 said:
I'd rather she wasn't dead.

I'm indifferent. I didn't like her music, so I don't mourn the loss on that front. I'm also a bit too cynical to feign mourning on the basis that "any death is sad", and the media machine has rendered me more than slightly averse to large outpourings of grief about people that none of us know. I'm not in the least bit surprised that she's dead. That's about it.