Battlefield 3 thread - Server details in opening post -

physichull · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:12

Don't get your hopes up Setter!

Option 1 is how it currently is, option 2 is a possible solution (obviously the compass could be a lot more discrete than the way I have excellently (crudely, ahem) illustrated.

Squark · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:13

physichull said:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a316/stuart_a_wilson/compass.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

Isn't that how Flashpoint did it?

Tefal · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:13

Don't the army have proper system for giving the exact location + the leader taking tracer rounds to mark it.

But you really cant expect people to have to learn a large complicated military code system in a game that's not ARMA.

physichull · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:15

Squark said:
Isn't that how Flashpoint did it?

Yeah I think so, I was trying to think of the games that have done this but my memory failed so I had to draw it. That would be a good solution I reckon.

Phinor · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:16

trigger-happy said:
I just realised why my account didn't get the alpha! I didn't verify my email address on my EA profile, hopefully the alpha should come soon?

The alpha is very limited and very few people got into it even if it looks like a lot of people did get in. Majority of us did NOT get in. I personally don't know anyone who got in.

physichull · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:21

Tefal said:
But you really cant expect people to have to learn a large complicated military code system in a game that's not ARMA.

This is true. I don't want this game to be like Arma in complexity. It's just a game at the end of the day, defib paddles, infinite ammo boxes, motion sensor balls....aren't these enemy markers a bit of a drop in the ocean anyway?

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not complaining, all things added together make a good game.

Calabi · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:22

ChrisJSY said:
I was waiting for a post like this, it is absolutely nothing like real life.
You can't tell where people are when they have left your line of sight and have kept moving. You can't tell people quickly enough where an enemy is when they are over 100m away either.

But I understand where you said virtual, they should've added a compass bearing or "enemies at 12/1/5o'clock" with a pop up watch point, so that they dont give your position away too easily but make you look in the general direction. Have it so they players below a certain distance and it will yell, "Enemy Infantry (danger) CLOSE!" But I'm certain they'll have a way to remove it, that's all I care about, I hate playing normal mode bc2 D:

Thats what I'd prefer a compass at the top or bottom of the screen, which just gives you rough directions to where threats are.

It seems stupid to me, its just a game of press q and shoot the triangle. You end up killing someone from miles away or being killed from miles away. Its just a mess of hud stuff which tells you what to do and where to go.

I prefer up close, where the enemy is more than a couple of pixels big.

RavenXXX2 · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:23

Yeah we have had that compass thing in Battlefield for years, it's called the mini map and that's all I need.

physichull · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:24

Calabi said:
Thats what I'd prefer a compass at the top or bottom of the screen, which just gives you rough directions to where threats are.

It seems stupid to me, its just a game of press q and shoot the triangle. You end up killing someone from miles away or being killed from miles away. Its just a mess of hud stuff which tells you what to do and where to go.

I prefer up close, where the enemy is more than a couple of pixels big.

To be honest though, it isn't all that often that firing at little triangles actually results in a kill, for me anyway.

Neil79 · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:26

RavenXXX2 said:
Yeah we have had that compass thing in Battlefield for years, it's called the mini map and that's all I need.

BF2 did it right!

Gerard · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:29

Neil79 said:
BF2 did it right!

BF2 had its share of issues as well though, like if a tank popped smoke you could still find it in the smoke cloud by moving your crosshair about and the name tag would appear if you landed on it.

RavenXXX2 · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:30

Neil79 said:
BF2 did it right!

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Below is BF2, imagine it with 3D spotting, would you not prefer a game with immersion where you actually have to look and find the enemy with no silly markers that pinpoint the enemy on screen.

Tefal · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:34

But now you just move behind cover and the triangle stops being over your head.

Gerard · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:36

Tefal said:
But now you just move behind cover and the triangle stops being over your head.

He's been told that numerous times, it hasn't gotten through yet.

Strife212 · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:36

Who cares about that anyway, my issue with it is that we may as well be playing Black Ops from what we've seen of operation metro.

jonneymendoza · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:36

man i wana try this alpha. not fair

Snaggle · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:39

RavenXXX2 said:
From our analysis we have concluded that the 3D spot follows the spotted player through all cover and does not go static or go away when the enemy takes cover. This is reports from players and checking alpha footage leaked on youtube. I can't see how anyone can claim it's different when there is visual proof showing otherwise.

Care to explain why it is less of an issue?

Because when i first tried it i did not know how it worked . now i know i can clear the flag by getting cover its less of an issue . Although not all cover clears the flag hence why i said it can still be a pain .

I have flagged an enemy sniper and done some suppresion fire and he has ducked down below the rocks and his flag has cleared and when he pops up and just reflag him (rock was in the middle of no other cover so he could not move ) . The trouble is if you hide to unflag (normally going prone ) chances are someone will run up and get you if there close enough .

Im sure the finished game will be better but it works if u understand it

Gerard · 24 Jul 2011 at 16:43

Persil said:
Im sure the finished game will be better but it works if u understand it

Yup, and theyve already said its still being worked on.

setter · 24 Jul 2011 at 17:06

physichull said:
Don't get your hopes up Setter!

Option 1 is how it currently is, option 2 is a possible solution (obviously the compass could be a lot more discrete than the way I have excellently (crudely, ahem) illustrated.

Option 2 would be good. I can remember in the film tears of the sun, a member of the seal team carried a type of tablet/pad unit that was able to show enemy location relevant to their position. Possibly a bit of hollywood licensing, but with uav's and modern satellites, surely the ability to track troop movements is there now. And can be translated to a game.

jonneymendoza · 24 Jul 2011 at 17:11

anyone can share them their alpha code?