Is this shop lifting?

Raymond Lin said:
sigh....price like said, is irrelevance as what it comes down to is dishonesty.

If she says at the till, I am paying for this trolley of food and this banana too.

The supermarket says...can't weight it (lets just say it HAS to be weight).

So, just put 2 on there, i'll pay for that then.

Job done, you can argue that you will never be able to tell how much that single banana was worth, but you can't deny that it will cost less than 2!

The point is if you can't prove is never intend to pay then she is not shop lifting. It is that simple. And you will never able to tell until she walks out of the door.
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You keep arguing two different things. I said at the beginning we do not know if she was going to pay for it. I'm suggesting that she wouldn't have paid for it and is now saying that she is because she got caught. I can't believe that the security guard acted in the way he did without the woman doing something to get his back up. May I suggest her behaviour when challenged led him to believe she had no intention to pay? He would therefore want to detain her until they could get to the bottom of it.
Of course, now she'll say she had every intention to pay for it it would be stupid not to say that (even if it is a lie).
You're assuming she was prepared to pay for it, I'm assuming that she wasn't and the actus reus would have been satisfied.

Do you agree that I wouldn't be called to be a member of a Jury in such a case?

I ask again, as you probably missed it first time around. Are you quite new to law or are you on a training contract?
 
IMHO it is wrong what she did. Why couldn't she just eat the banana after she has paid for it? I cannot comprehend how people think it is right to just grab something off the shelf and start eating it. I've seen people do it and I just don't understand it in all honesty :confused:
 
Ahleckz said:
You keep arguing two different things. I said at the beginning we do not know if she was going to pay for it. I'm suggesting that she wouldn't have paid for it and is now saying that she is because she got caught. I can't believe that the security guard acted in the way he did without the woman doing something to get his back up. May I suggest her behaviour when challenged led him to believe she had no intention to pay? He would therefore want to detain her until they could get to the bottom of it.
Of course, now she'll say she had every intention to pay for it it would be stupid not to say that (even if it is a lie).
You're assuming she was prepared to pay for it, I'm assuming that she wasn't and the actus reus would have been satisfied.

Do you agree that I wouldn't be called to be a member of a Jury in such a case?

I ask again, as you probably missed it first time around. Are you quite new to law or are you on a training contract?
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I cba to read all that.

All I asked was

Yes or No....sigh.
 
Swifty123 said:
Couldnt she just wait.
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no, apparently we live in a culture that enables us to do what ever the **** we feel like when it benefits us.

I never even thought to ask my parents if I could eat what they were buying when we went shopping, the begging would start as soon as it had gone through the till :D.
 
I think it happens too often that although it seems minor Tesco have decided to clamp down on it. It's fair enough from their point of view (and I'm sure this tug of war stuff is lies).

I don't know what she's having a moan about in the press really, Tesco didnt press charges for theft, they told her she had to leave and then she asks to continue shopping after they've told her to leave, and for some reason thinks Tesco are acting in the wrong? Nonsense.

Given you cant say if she intended to pay or not you cant say if its 'criminal' theft, but she seems like a bit of a cheeky one, to put it mildly.
 
Personally I think what the guard did was right stopping the person. One day a banana, next day large bar of chocolate in the next 18years that child in the trolley is stealing money from lil old dears. Nip it in the bud.
 
I saw a woman take a block of Jelly off a shelf and eat it as she walked around the shop. Unluckily we were "In sync" and I could not lose her everywhere i went she was there Just chomping away on RAW JELLY! sickening. She was so fat and lazy she thought " I like jelly, but I don't want to wait till I get home and make this delicious Rowntree goodness I will just eat it now and to hell with anyone that will see me.

that's my story.
On topic - not really stealing (unless it's a weigh and pay) but I think she is in the wrong. Plus as an employee of the store the security guard can ask anyone he wants to leave, she doesn't have to agree or like it but tough. I'm taking her story with a pinch of salt, most customers are moaning miserable people, who shouldn't be allowed out alone.
 
nkata said:
You cannot buy just one banana.

If they are weighed and priced at the tills then yes she was stealing.
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This... don't eat an object you pay for by its weight :/

coltpython3 said:
nothing wrong with eating in the supermarket imo. ive done it dozens of times and always pay for the item ive just ate.
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Which is fine... be it a bag of crisps etc, but how do you pay for something that gets charged by its weight? Obviously this isn't impossible, but I doubt it's something them implement.
 
Curiousalien said:
I saw a woman take a block of Jelly off a shelf and eat it as she walked around the shop. Unluckily we were "In sync" and I could not lose her everywhere i went she was there Just chomping away on RAW JELLY! sickening.
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The concentrated jelly is surprisingly tasty!
 
It is most likely Tesco would have not yet paid for the banana either.


That said the policy of not eating in store is fair, and it's fair to enforce, regardless of if you purchased the item prior or have just picked it up and intend to purchase later.
 
Brian8bit said:
This is how I'm imagining Raymond and Ahleckz right now.

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:D
 
Until the item is paid for, its considered theft.
Items like bananas need to be weighed, which can't be done for obvious reasons if you eat it first.

Security guard was definately on a power trip and handled the situation terribly, but the woman is in the wrong.
 
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