Drug testing at work

iDroid84 said:
But then again most drug users don't give a damn they would probably never work in their life again if companies did random drug tests.
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Clearly you are talking out of your crack (pipe).

I know plenty of people including myself who use drugs on a very regular basis and still manage to hold down a job, relationship, friendships, keep a rood over their head, feed themselves. Hell some of them even wash before leaving the house - who'd have thought it?

The majority of drug problems in this country are down to legislation and the media, not drugs themselves.
 
B&W said:
nothing wrong with Smoking a Spliff.

snorting coke, taking E's your a baghead pure and simple mate.
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Based on what?! This is a forum not the bloody daily mail.

Nothing wrong with coke and E's - it's the cigarettes and alcohol that kill the most.
 
James J said:
Would you want a surgeon who still has a high level of illegal drugs in his body doing an operation on you?
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You could say the same about legal drugs, alcohol, tiredness or even lack of nutrition, they could effect how someone performs their you job. If they're unfit for work, then they go home, regardless of the cause.

Drug tests will penalise people who use drugs outside of work hours, but will still have traces of the drug in their system at time of work, with no effect.
 
I've worked in a profession before where we got randomly drug tested. The consequences for failing were immediate dismissal with an dishonourable discharge. I don't think it stopped that many of the guys I worked with partaking in recreational drug use whilst on leave, they all seemed to know how long to lay off it for in order for it not to show up in the test.

If I remember rightly, most only have a short term presence in urine and blood (taking a few days tops I believe). The notable exception is weed, which I believe is present for weeks after a users last indulgence.
 
Eddie182 said:
Why not, we've had it in the Forces for years, and it works very well. Only a good thing in my opinion, anything to help erradicate illegal drugs and crime attributed to them.
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You know what the best way to deal with that would be don't you? Legalise them - no crime as it'll be available on the high street and not illegal to possess the drugs. Only downside is it might free up a few more officers to sit around with radar guns...
 
Dr House said:
What are people’s thoughts on this, if large employers including government workers were subjected to random drug testing with the threat of dismissal do you think it would put a big dent in the drug industry?
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We do both drug and alcohol random testing. Any reading at all on the alcohol test then you are retested within 30 minutes, if there is still a reading then you are suspended without pay until an investigation and disciplinary is carried out.

In all cases so far the employee has had their contract terminated upon completion of the investigation.

Drug testing is similar, however the nature of drug testing means the investigative procedure is more complex.

Since we instituted this policy and enforced the few initial cases we have had a zero incidence of employees under the influence.

Zero Tolerance = Zero Incidence......hopefully.
 
Longbow said:
Why should the government or a corporation care what someone does in their own home in their spare time?
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at some of the engineering companies ive worked for over the years it's an instant dismissal for any crane operators/slingers who are under the influence, be it drugs or booze. so for some jobs the management care very much wether or not your home imbibing has an effect on your work performance.

i certainly wouldnt be best pleased to share floor space with a crane operator whos still battered from a heavy weekend session, especially not when hes shifting 100 odd ton of steel over my head.
 
Castiel said:
We do both drug and alcohol random testing. Any reading at all on the alcohol test then you are retested within 30 minutes, if there is still a reading then you are suspended without pay until an investigation and disciplinary is carried out.

In all cases so far the employee has had their contract terminated upon completion of the investigation.

Drug testing is similar, however the nature of drug testing means the investigative procedure is more complex.

Since we instituted this policy and enforced the few initial cases we have had a zero incidence of employees under the influence.

Zero Tolerance = Zero Incidence......hopefully.
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What happens to a person who is taking prescribed medication?
 
Longbow said:
Why should the government or a corporation care what someone does in their own home in their spare time?
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The Government should care because it is an illegal activity.

The Company should care because the conduct of their employees reflects upon that of the company.

That is not including the safety aspects of working under the influence or even recovering from being under the influence.
 
shoes said:
You know what the best way to deal with that would be don't you? Legalise them - no crime as it'll be available on the high street and not illegal to possess the drugs. Only downside is it might free up a few more officers to sit around with radar guns...
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Apart from the many murders and people trafficing and various other unpleasent activities conducted by those who produce said drugs around the world.

Personally I'll stick to my idea, you take drugs, you go to jail. No pink and fluffy rehab or other bs, jail, end of.

I for one don't want a bunch of drugged up idiots all across the country, the drunks are bad enough.
 
Longbow said:
You could say the same about legal drugs, alcohol, tiredness or even lack of nutrition, they could effect how someone performs their you job. If they're unfit for work, then they go home, regardless of the cause.

Drug tests will penalise people who use drugs outside of work hours, but will still have traces of the drug in their system at time of work, with no effect.
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Of course we could, but alcohol is often tested for along side illegal drugs due to its impairment of working abilities. Legal drugs which have a sedatory effect atleast are on a record of being prescribed and should always be reported to the companies HR if you need to stop doing certain tasks due to being on such drugs. For example, a pharmacist would always tell you about that sort of side effect with a drug and give you the advice of speaking to your employee to inform them so a risk assessment can be made if your in a dangerous line of work or drive/operate machinery.

Tiredness is something which can be addressed differently as you can use a mild stimulant like caffeine to improve your performance and then be fine the next day after a good nights sleep.
 
Dr House said:
I dont agree with this, drug addicts yes however there are lots and lots normal professional people that will do a line of coke on a night out, take some E or whatever.
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If I was to be operated on or spoken to from a professional that did illegal drugs I would never trust them again ever.

People who take coke/E become vert spiteful people. I have lost a friend who died from E, my aunty also lost her very first BF from E. The latest batches of E around the North East are very very poor and even the coke has degraded massively.

shoes said:
Clearly you are talking out of your crack (pipe).

I know plenty of people including myself who use drugs on a very regular basis and still manage to hold down a job, relationship, friendships, keep a rood over their head, feed themselves. Hell some of them even wash before leaving the house - who'd have thought it?

The majority of drug problems in this country are down to legislation and the media, not drugs themselves.
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As stated above, they become very spiteful people. You may be able to hold down a job e.t.c, however the people who don't do it loose trust in these types of people who do drugs frequently.
 
Eddie182 said:
Apart from the many murders and people trafficing and various other unpleasent activities conducted by those who produce said drugs around the world.

Personally I'll stick to my idea, you take drugs, you go to jail. No pink and fluffy rehab or other bs, jail, end of.

I for one don't want a bunch of drugged up idiots all across the country, the drunks are bad enough.
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And if they were legalized then they would be made by certified drug companies and such crime would be virtually non-existent.
 
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