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Excellent news.
He is a moron and I hope he gets to spend all six weeks 'entertaining' his fellow inmates in the showers
Murdoch shaving foam attack guy gets 6 weeks in jail
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He is a moron and I hope he gets to spend all six weeks 'entertaining' his fellow inmates in the showers
People in glass houses...
Really? You're going to go there?...
Couldn't put it better myself...
Are you referring to probation, community service etc?
Regarding the type of crimes you mention (sexual crimes), being made to sign the Sex Offenders Register and having to be subject to strict monitoring rules including restrictions to travel for a number of years can be seen as a punishment over and above the actual punishment they receive
If so, that is not "unpunished". You cannot have an argument but then change the context of the meaning of the word in the situation to suit your point.
If that's not what you mean then can you give an example of what you mean. I don't necessarily mean a real life example but just one so we know where you are coming from i.e. what you DO refer to as non-punishment as opposed to what you don't, just so its clear.
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Not even community service. It is unpunished in every way that matters, i.e. not causing any measurable level of inconvenience to the offender, and more to the point demonstrates the absurdly disproportionate sentencing we have in this country.
So are you referring to a conviction being secured but no punishment given which, as you say, can happen?
Not sure this has ever happened in a sexual crime related case (which you specifically mentioned) but I have a feeling you have an actual real life example hence your comments. Care to share what the crime and sentencing was?
Not sure this has ever happened in a sexual crime related case (which you specifically mentioned) but I have a feeling you have an actual real life example hence your comments. Care to share what the crime and sentencing was?
I remember this off the top of my head.
http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2052066_teenager_thomas_fletcher_sentenced_for_dog_sex
The point being that the sentencing here is completely unreasonable and disproportionate.
The cps sentencing guidelines say that a fine is a suitable starting point for an attack where no injury occurs.
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/common_assult/
The fact that this was blatantly ignored by the judge leads one to believe that he was given a hefty bribe.
The assault laws are not supposed to be abused to imprison those who damage a persons ego with no possibility of injury, which appears to be the case here. Though with lawsuits in this country based on hurt feelings, this is just par for the course I suppose.
http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2052066_teenager_thomas_fletcher_sentenced_for_dog_sex
The point being that the sentencing here is completely unreasonable and disproportionate.
The cps sentencing guidelines say that a fine is a suitable starting point for an attack where no injury occurs.
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/common_assult/
The fact that this was blatantly ignored by the judge leads one to believe that he was given a hefty bribe.
The assault laws are not supposed to be abused to imprison those who damage a persons ego with no possibility of injury, which appears to be the case here. Though with lawsuits in this country based on hurt feelings, this is just par for the course I suppose.
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The problem I have with this sentence is that I heard the guys solicitor on the radio and he said in all the cases when people threw stuff at MP's and prime ministers including flour, eggs etc all the people got were community charge so why is this case different?
Age of victim, location of attack and the fact that he isn't an MP so it isn't as expected?
Yes, because bribing a judge would be an incredibly sensible thing to do in this position wouldn't it? Who exactly was the one bribing the judge?
My problem is that the Judge has admitted she did not follow sentencing guidelines
So she has basically sentenced the guy not based on what he did but on what he might have done if security hadn't grabbed him.
How can that be right? How does she know what else the guy intended to do?
Isn't that second guessing an outcome?
That makes me nervous. Next you might have burglars getting longer sentencing on the basis that if the home owner had been in, they might have assaulted them.
So she has basically sentenced the guy not based on what he did but on what he might have done if security hadn't grabbed him.
How can that be right? How does she know what else the guy intended to do?
Isn't that second guessing an outcome?
That makes me nervous. Next you might have burglars getting longer sentencing on the basis that if the home owner had been in, they might have assaulted them.
Murdoch didn;t want to press charges but it wasn't his choice because of where it happened.
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At the end of the day, I have zero problems with the sentence, and would base that argument almost entirely on the place in which it occurred. It's disgraceful that someone interrupted a parliamentary hearing for that sort of faggotry.
I fail to see the problem with the hypothetical situation you have presented, burglars don't get nearly enough punishment that they truely deserve.
It didn't though. The judge never said she gave a severe sentence because of the location but that she broke the guidelines purely on the basis that Mr Murdoch did not know it was foam and could have been poison or acid and if the guy hadn't been stopped, he might have done something else and caused him further harm which would have been much worse than a foam pie to the face.
Jailing people based on what they may or may not have done is a slippery slope. Let's say somebody uses a water pistol and squirts water at him instead. Should the person be jailed for the appropriate jail term as if it was a real live gun? It might have been and for a split second the victim wouldn't know for sure.
Exactly. They don;t even get prison time for a first offence round her yet a guy with a foam pie gets 6 weeks? I know which person I would rather have locked up in our short supply cells to protect society.