Why do Londoners think they are separate from the rest of England?
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That's the price of a decent three bedroom family home in Camden, one of the places you quoted as affordable for people who aren't on high incomes. The reality is that if you want to have a proper home in London, and by London I mean actually London not Zone 349876, then you DO need to earn well, unless you want to do nothing but pay your bills.Where did £500k come from?
What's that mean in English?You're not seeking a great disposable income because you have 50k disposable (before tax)!
TFL seems to suggest Crystal Palace to Chancery Lane is 45 minutes, and that's assuming you live on top of Crystal Palace station!Chancery Lane/Holborn. The stuff that's 5-10min walk from the west end
That's the price of a decent three bedroom family home in Camden, one of the places you quoted as affordable for people who aren't on high incomes. The reality is that if you want to have a proper home in London, and by London I mean actually London not Zone 349876, then you DO need to earn well, unless you want to do nothing but pay your bills.What's that mean in English?
You have no idea where the borders of London are, do you?
London is all the way up to zone 6 on the tube map. Get over not living on your workplaces door step and it is quite easily affordable to live in London, providing you can beat the buy-to-letters to a purchase of course.
*shrug* 20mins, daily to city-link.
You're not seeking a great disposable income because you have 50k disposable (before tax)!
What's that mean in English?
Shockingly bad English by me (though yours isn't much better
).I meant to say, it's no wonder that you're not seeking a greater disposable income (as you said) because your take home wage is entirely disposable.
I know exactly what the borders of London are, but I also understand where everything interesting in London is. I can arrive in the City itself from the front door of my house in Essex in 45 minutes, and I'm not close to the action at all. To be living a similar travel time away but technically in London is a bit of a weak argument. You are living in the geographic area, sure, but you may as well not be!You have no idea where the borders of London are, do you?
London is all the way up to zone 6 on the tube map. Get over not living on your workplaces door step and it is quite easily affordable to live in London, providing you can beat the buy-to-letters to a purchase of course.
I actually said that I *am* seeking a greater disposable income, but I agree it wasn't as clearly worded as it could beShockingly bad English by me (though yours isn't much better
I meant to say, it's no wonder that you're not seeking a greater disposable income (as you said) because your take home wage is entirely disposable.
I can quite easily spend every penny I earn, but then I consume quite a lot and have expectations of regularly eating/going out (and to nice places), having a decent car, nice clothes etc.
Blackheath seemed affordable to me, also pretty and good transit into London. Friend of mine had a 2 bed there for £900 a month, which you can easily cover on an average professional salary of £40k.
People with midrange property in centralish London are living in cloud cuckoo land, a house in semi desirable area just cannot cost 7-8 times a well-heeled professionals salary when the banks won't lend that. There aren't enough Russian billionaires willing to slum it.
People with midrange property in centralish London are living in cloud cuckoo land, a house in semi desirable area just cannot cost 7-8 times a well-heeled professionals salary when the banks won't lend that. There aren't enough Russian billionaires willing to slum it.
Oh right, misread you. Sorry.
In that case though, you're mental
. But I guess that demonstrates the costs of London quite nicely. I'm sure that your disposable income would go a lot further in other cities. Would you get the same quality? Probably. Would you get the same choice? Doubtful. We touched on this in La Cuisine with the 'London Tax'.
I would like to live in London one day. I've only visited it, and had one night out there. I ended up with a astonishingly hot Russian bird in a gay bar. 100% success rate in taking girls to gay bars and then taking them home.
I've always liked the place though!
Would you have the same job opportunities? No.
Depends what you're job is. I don't think there is much of a demand for sheep shearers in Earls Court...
I've been to London quite a lot when I was a kid and as an adult with work on the occasional night or weekend, don't really like it feels hard to escape. Everytime I go on a tube and I pop back up tbh it all looks the same in the centre! To start with I was a bit bewildered, couldn't see the horizon for highrises and towers, could never work out where N/E/S/W was. Bah! One place I popped above ground I could see three or four McDonald's all within walking distance of the station, that is a bit over the top surely? No burger kings either I note with due disapointment.
I found the transport links at times very overcrowded, people can be quite ignorant but not everyone obviously. Shop staff in and around the station need lessons in manners however. It all gives a very hectic feel with the mass of bodies all darting around oblivious. Trains seem quite old on some of the main routes to places like "Souffend" and the likes maybe even a spruce up inside would be good, underground seems quite antiquified also.
It has some very nice areas, good places to eat as well but I think I prefer Kent more than London if I'm honest, much nicer quality and pace of life for me anyway. London was great as a kid, Imperial war museum, West End shows, TGI fridays etc. I don't find much to draw me in these days I just skip through. I do like landing in the City airport though if working, cool landing!
I found the transport links at times very overcrowded, people can be quite ignorant but not everyone obviously. Shop staff in and around the station need lessons in manners however. It all gives a very hectic feel with the mass of bodies all darting around oblivious. Trains seem quite old on some of the main routes to places like "Souffend" and the likes maybe even a spruce up inside would be good, underground seems quite antiquified also.
It has some very nice areas, good places to eat as well but I think I prefer Kent more than London if I'm honest, much nicer quality and pace of life for me anyway. London was great as a kid, Imperial war museum, West End shows, TGI fridays etc. I don't find much to draw me in these days I just skip through. I do like landing in the City airport though if working, cool landing!
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Pretty sure sheep shearers don't relocate to London. A lot of other people *have* to - moving to where the work is...
Well, I don't actually live in London, I live just on the outskirtsOh right, misread you. Sorry.
In that case though, you're mental
We touched on this in La Cuisine with the 'London Tax'.
I would like to live in London one day. I've only visited it, and had one night out there. I ended up with a astonishingly hot Russian bird in a gay bar. 100% success rate in taking girls to gay bars and then taking them home.
I've always liked the place though!
In terms of how much further my income would go? Probably not very far is the answer. Most of the things I buy do not vary in cost significantly depending on where you are i.e. good restaurants, bars etc. A cocktail in what's probably my favourite bar in London is typically £8, and I don't think good cocktail bars anywhere charge much less. There is a bit of a London tax on those things but it wouldn't take me from having not a lot of money spare to tons spare. Take L'Atelier, for example, it may have been a bit cheaper in Glasgow, but not a huge amount cheaper!
Well, I don't actually live in London, I live just on the outskirts
In terms of how much further my income would go? Probably not very far is the answer. Most of the things I buy do not vary in cost significantly depending on where you are i.e. good restaurants, bars etc. A cocktail in what's probably my favourite bar in London is typically £8, and I don't think good cocktail bars anywhere charge much less. There is a bit of a London tax on those things but it wouldn't take me from having not a lot of money spare to tons spare. Take L'Atelier, for example, it may have been a bit cheaper in Glasgow, but not a huge amount cheaper!
Perhaps. I suppose London is soooo much more expensive than anywhere else for housing but that obviously doesn't apply with you. Most of my experience with London pricing is anecdotal but it certainly is more expensive than other cities. How much more so depends on the thing in question I suppose. The best cocktail bar in Glasgow is indeed around £8 for a cocktail.
You'd save money on food in Glasgow as it's a tragic shame that there aren't any Michelin starred restaurants in the city.
Oh, definitely. Not living there I probably don't get exposed to the extra day-to-day costs. I basically, as much as possible, go out in London night or day. I love the place!
Yup, definitely. Very interestingly (maybe subconsciously) I picked Glasgow at random, and only noticed your location is Glasgow after you posted with your confirmation of the cocktail price
That is true enough. People I know who don't go in to London very much can easily spend far less than I do, but then they don't get up to as much fun stuff!
Miles better my ****.
Edinburgh has 5.
I've seen cocktails about a ton, vino near a grand and whisky £10-15k a bottle. Only got some of the wine mind you, that was at the Witchery. There was more expensive on the menu but hey beggars can't be choosers. Was lovely.
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