EA: "BF3 won't be on steam"
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People loathed Steam with a passion when it 1st arrived, yet now feel they can't live without it.
Do people honestly think that Steam will be the be all & end all of digital downloads?
EA are a company that think they have a way to cut out the middle-man with Origin & quite rightly so. People can bleat on about them grabbing money, but why, if you can sell a product that you've created then give it to another download system when you've got one yourself? Plus they have share-holders too, who I can imagine would like to maximise profits, even if it costs extra to run a system.
Retail shops will still sell items as not everyone can download large amounts of data still with limits on downloads etc but we are slowly moving into a non-disc era for gaming content.
Fact of the matter is, we're getting Origin whether we like it or not and fingers crossed it might be good for the consumer with regards prices, although that's not guaranteed.
One final thought.... you don't see many Valve games on other digital download services do you?
Do people honestly think that Steam will be the be all & end all of digital downloads?
EA are a company that think they have a way to cut out the middle-man with Origin & quite rightly so. People can bleat on about them grabbing money, but why, if you can sell a product that you've created then give it to another download system when you've got one yourself? Plus they have share-holders too, who I can imagine would like to maximise profits, even if it costs extra to run a system.
Retail shops will still sell items as not everyone can download large amounts of data still with limits on downloads etc but we are slowly moving into a non-disc era for gaming content.
Fact of the matter is, we're getting Origin whether we like it or not and fingers crossed it might be good for the consumer with regards prices, although that's not guaranteed.
One final thought.... you don't see many Valve games on other digital download services do you?
No Logic to your post as if the game would only be available from steam if it was on steam.
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As has been mentioned, this is in fact the first confirmation that it won't be on Steam. Before it was only speculation.
Total rubbish EA are spouting about not being able to patch anyway you want. I'm pretty sure I installed an F1 2010 patch via Game for Windows live downloader and NOT Steam.
And the bit about EA "working with Valve" to bring BF3 to Steam. What rubbish. They KNOW they are talking absolute crap.
Also funny, how a bunch of people commenting on the forum post say how "Steam overcharge on DLC" to get a cut. Do people not know that publishers set the prices on Steam. Idiots.
Total rubbish EA are spouting about not being able to patch anyway you want. I'm pretty sure I installed an F1 2010 patch via Game for Windows live downloader and NOT Steam.
And the bit about EA "working with Valve" to bring BF3 to Steam. What rubbish. They KNOW they are talking absolute crap.
Also funny, how a bunch of people commenting on the forum post say how "Steam overcharge on DLC" to get a cut. Do people not know that publishers set the prices on Steam. Idiots.
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1) No one is saying that but as things stand right now its better than what EA has got.
2) So why even bother having any of there games on other Download services.
3) Most of my collection was bought on the steam sales & they have been unmatched for the quantity & regularity.
4) The difference is the integration with steam & Value games was there from the get go & with Friends, VAC & servers all part of the package which are not available on any other service plus Valves games get more free updates than any other.
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There is a lot that some users don't know no matter how many times its mentioned.
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On further thought I'm going to attempt to hold off on buying BF3 until it's on Steam. I can live without playing it for a few months (or at all) for the benefit of less hassle - Origin is every bit as rubbish as the old EADownloader service.
I'll be interested to see if I crack and end up buying it anyhow
but I'm going to try and resist.
I'll be interested to see if I crack and end up buying it anyhow
but I'm going to try and resist.
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Is anyone else just hoping EA is saying this to boost their pre-order sales then on release steam will have it?
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Well, we can hope
But really, I don't think it will change. It's just EA being greedy idiots. No change there then.
The fact that you can use a Steam product key for BF:BC2 to download the Limited Edition including Vietnam on Origin, shows that EA don't know how to run a download service properly.
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Hope that's the case. If it's not on Steam, it's gone from being a certain pre-order to an iffy maybe see what I feel like. Same for loads of my friends.
Completely agree, I'm on the side of Steam here. Its a 100% better service.
I like Steam, nearly all the games I buy are Steam. It took I while, I was suspicious of it for a while during the early Half Life days. All I know is I don't want two game services. I'll buy retail, but not Origin. Let me guess, Origin is mandatory to play?
To be honest (and let it be known I still prefer steam!) Crysis2 I got on origin, and it auto patched everything so its not all bad. I just wish i could have one service for absolutely everything, even the obscure stuff.
But then again im asking a lot there arent I? lol
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In an ideal world, where publishers weren't greedy, and really cared about customers, then everyone would be publishing via Steam, and it would be one big happy family.
Sadly, it's never going to happen.
Sadly, it's never going to happen.
I don't think EA is being greedy at all.
It's not about Steam taking care of their customers. Steam customers could still get the DLC from inside the game client.
Instead, Steam/Valve want a cut of all the DLC revenue. Thus they have stipulated that you must be able to buy the DLC from Steam, rather than in the game itself.
Thats basically ea just pulling a fast one though, if steam hosted the game then why should there basically be a workaround in the game for ea to make more money but not the platform hosting the game?
Why exactly is that unfair? If the game is bought on Steam DLC for the Steam version must be avaialble on Steam. There is absolutely nothing wrong from the customers point of view, EA just refuse to give up that small portion of the profit.
Steam works differently to other DD services that are effectively just providing a CD Key so you can activate it on Origin. Once its sold they have nothing to do with the game. They want to lock it to Origin in the same way Steam locks it to Steam only they aren't doing it for anything so noble as 'providing direct support'.
Its not like Steam are demanding exclusive DLC rights.
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Yes in the ideal world everybody would be giving money to Valve
Oh wait that's Valve's ideal world.
In the actual ideal world we'd have one open source client that could access multiple systems, that way we'd have all the advantages of one client and one list of games...but with the benefits of an open market.