Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)

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so well just have the police standing looking on, like a bunch of useless goons, If only people were speeding then maybe the police force would be useful.

At least the army would actually do something, either by going in or rubber batons, cs gas and water cannons.

If they'd gone in hard on the Saturday this wouldn't happen, these people are animals, only force is recongised and the police force are showing that their impotent.

Well we'll have to disagree there.

The army would face the same legal constraints as the police.
 
Self proclaimed black community leaders caused this nonsense... supporting a gangster scumbag who was shot by police, marching up an angry group to a police station early evening on a Saturday and making retarded calls for 'justice' kicked this off.
 
No, I'm not. I'd love to be able to take a simplistic view of a thousand of people rioting around the country, but it wouldn't be right.. This is the result of an accumulation of wide ranging social issues. I suppose you think it's got more to do with the rise in price of a Kentucky Fried Chicken meal?.

I think it's criminal scumbags being opportunistic.

Just like what happens in prison but on a larger scale.
 
I wonder if all the people here who are slating the police response would be the same people that would be baying for blood should a rioter be seriously hurt by police, perhaps fatally so?...
 
No, I'm not. I'd love to be able to take a simplistic view of a thousand of people rioting around the country, but it wouldn't be right.. This is the result of an accumulation of wide ranging social issues. I suppose you think it's got more to do with the rise in price of a Kentucky Fried Chicken meal?.

Well the right do have a propensity towards racism after all.... ;)
 
Self proclaimed black community leaders caused this nonsense... supporting a gangster scumbag who was shot by police, marching up an angry group to a police station early evening on a Saturday and making retarded calls for 'justice' kicked this off.

Really? Source?
 
Just out of interest how would you protect your shop?

A member of my family owns a opticians, he has spent 4 years building it up and around a million and is only just about to start possible seeing a profit if he is lucky. It would devastate and distort him if they looted it :(

Korean shop keepers during the LA riots:

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Feel very sorry for the fire service and police officers who have to face this.

This for the reason I'm glad dad's now been a retired copper now for almost 20 years. He's been watching this in the telly & he's said that he hasn't seen Violence on this scale since he was involved in policing the Miners Strike in '84.
 
The problem with steaming in and locking people up is it takes officers off the street.

yes cos their doing such a good job standing there, some one needs to grow a pair and choose a option and go with it, the police are led by bureaucrats not leaders, too scared to make a bloody dissustion
 
Yes, no control as you go on to give your own explanation for.

London is burning, and politicians will be flapping. The met was on it's knees before this happened, apparently morale is at a serious low. Fires are raging without response, this is across the whole capital.

But no, lets stay on holiday and pretend like nothing is going on ;)

I agree

I would vote for foreign police to be brought in to deal with the sitation. There are plenty of tough police around the world and I am sure it won't be difficult to find one.
 
The army will not deter crowds like what we are seeing.

Look no further than Northern Ireland. Heavily armed troops and police do not deter rioters.


Umm..really?..I cant tell you living in Belfast for 30 years seeing the worst of the riots in the 80's 90's that the tactics used by the then RUC/UDR/ Army where very VERY effective. Esp late 90's and more recently the trouble in Belfast from the PSNI, they bring the line to where THEY want it, they NEVER had police standing at one end of the street watching looting going on in front of them.
 
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