Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)

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Ahleckz said:
'Better weapons'? There aren't better weapons to be used in a mob like this unless we want to turn this thing into a scene similar to Bangkok.

I'm still unsure how you think tear gas will help bring this to an end. It would be useful for clearing small areas for a short while. However it would increase the pressure on emergency services (treating those effected), be a logistical nightmare (getting it to the police, and keeping it safe) and would antagonise the protesters and likely reinforce their belief that what they are doing is apt.
Making angry protesters, angrier will NOT help reduce this. It will reinforce their ideas and potentially bring more people in to help fight their fight.

Water Cannon, well there aren't any in Great Britain. They are also predominately a protection tool. They are designed to protect buildings of importance and prevent people from getting too close. It isn't a mobile tool. The same issues with tear gas apply with water cannon.

I'm not entirely sure on what the legal implications are with the use of rubber bullets at the time. I'm quite doubtful on the numbers of weapons the police have to use as well as the training they'd need. Not to mention the sheer bureaucracy that would be needed to be done pre and post deployment. Sure, it may help prevent people charging the police but not many people are doing that. Charging police isn't an issue, mindless violence, thuggery, robbery, burglary, fire raising, etc etc are the issues atm. Rubber bullets won't stop this.

I brought that up because you suggested I had a problem with you. I racked my brain and couldn't think of anything that would give you reason to think that apart from my view of your food photography so I mentioned that :).
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The entire points of the weapons and teargas is instil fear. Standing there with sticks and shields while the mob keep throwing missiles does nothing. Teargas will clear the mob and scatter, in an instant. Logistical nightmare regarding emergency services? as opposed to all those fires that stretches the fire and ambulance services? People affected by teargas would be capable of making their way to hospitals with no need for ambulance.

As for water cannon, a fire Engine would do pretty much the same thing anyway.

Yes, they need more numbers, but a million policeman just standing there won't do anything if they don't actually DO something.

And I really do hope you get over my style of photography, honestly, it makes zero sense. 1 - I don't see you post photos in the forum. 2 - if you are indeed a keen photographer, we respect of each other's work despite the disagreement, not hold a grudge (which is how you come across when you bring it up like this out of nowhere). But from what i've seen you don't even understand why I do what i do, sometimes under technical constraints that causes me to shoot at that aperture. Anyway, lets drop the pictures thing, it is way off topic.
 
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They're not making a statement, (whatever their colour) they are just looting. plain n simple. Get the troops in, shoot to maim (i mean wound) obviously :D
 
mcast said:
sky and bbc are doing a great photoshop job of changing white faces to black :rolleyes:
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More like your wearing your black only glasses. Ive been watching Sky news too, theres been loads of White people involved too. Heck lets see what the Liverpool rioters turn out to be, bet you one thing they will be scummy white tramps.
 
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