Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)

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Rich_L said:
And their parents, who undeniably have the vastly greater influence on their upbringing and behaviour and clearly did a bloody terrible job, were brought up and educated in the Thatcher 'me first' years. Fun this isn't it :D
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Actually, most of their parents wouldn't have been in this country when Thatcher was in power.
 
Nigel Farage Leader, UKIP on Twitter calls for the government to send in the Army: "Cobra must call in military support for the police if they are to control these riots. The population deserve protection."
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He's got my vote in 4 years...
 
Fourstar said:
Turned on the news this morning to hear Theresa May saying we need "consensual policing" to solve the current riots. She wants local residents to grass on the trouble makers and officers trawling CCTV for mugshots.

Do we hell. To me it seems these rioters are nothing but opportunists operating in the power vacuum caused by too lenient responses to the current riots.

Send the Police in with tear gas, water cannon and batons rounds and I bet this whole mess will be resolved in a couple of days bar liberals complaining we are crushing the rights of looters and vandals.

We know most of the arrested will be back on the streets in a couple of days with nothing but a slap on the wrist. A lung full of tear gas or baton round may be the only justice we can ever place on them.

I do find this whole situation very troubling as the very measures I call for would more easily be employed in the future if wheeled out now. Those situations may actually warrant mass protests (albeit without the vandalism and looting). Thinking future directions of the current financial crisis.
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how the hell you supposed to grass on trouble makers if there all wearing "hoodies and masks"

"excuse me mr officer"
"i saw a trouble maker breaking things"
"what did he look like"
"well he was wearing a hoodie and a mask"
"so which one was he"

FAIL
 
MagusUK said:
One problem with the police going in hard, I can guarantee you that there will be a lot of 'civilian' casualties. Unfortunately as these things break out 'innocent' people are coming out to spectate or to purely get out of the area. Furthermore, there are scenes where yobs have very young children amongst them. Any death/injury of a young child will evoke a far greater 'community' response.

It's v easy for all of us to be perched on our nests looking down & give instructions such as army/water canons, tear gas etc. In all honest I think this too but at the 'ground' level this isn't going to work. The only 'safe' solution is a curfew but as we saw yesterday, trouble started at 4pm so brining in a curfew at 9pm may already be too late.
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from what ive seen on sky news is, the little kids you talk of are in on the looting, a curfew wouldnt work, i think what would work is rubber bullets
 
Locky said:
I take the specials are the "plastic police" that can't do a thing and get loled at?
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No like Fox said the are constables. The Met also have the OSU which are a dedicated unit of specials who are riot trained.

OSU will be going to the front lines and specials that don't have this public order training will be relieving regular officers who do.
 
Dark Sun said:
Why do you get a crowd of bystanders all filming on their mobiles some yob break a car window. Why not try and stop it? Just an observation.
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Because there is a likelyhood that if the police later showed up, the yob would claim that the bystanders 'attacked' him, and thus the bystanders would be arrested for assaulting the poor defenceless hoody, who would then sue for compensation..
 
dirtydog said:
Thought so. Tragic if business and homeowners lose everything because of these riots.
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Couldn't even begin to imagine what they're going through.

Heard the guy whose family has owned that Reeve's shop for 140 years and i just felt so sorry for him - hope he's insured.
 
Are we likely to see any real change from this? A move towards protection of the victims or do we think it will be glossed over and the perpetrators painted as victims of circumstance?

And LOL the Olympic committee is due today for a scheduled inspection / visit. Aint karma a bitch.
 
Gaygle said:
I can't work out if that is a mocking comment - but if it is i'd suggest you wind your neck in. They will be going out there FOR FREE and getting beaten, having bricks and petrol bombs thrown at them and putting themselves in mortal danger.
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Quite the opposite - they should be paid and handsomely too rather than this and previous governments cutting pay and positions eft, right and center and then relying on people to come in for free to make up the difference.

(And also I got them confused with the PCSOs which truly would be a crap job right now!)
 
Ceryndrion said:
Because there is a likelyhood that if the police later showed up, the yob would claim that the bystanders 'attacked' him, and thus the bystanders would be arrested for assaulting the poor defenceless hoody, who would then sue for compensation..
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I suspect the police would say they didnt see anything or where "to busy" to arrest them ;)
 
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