Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)

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Sundance said:
Yeh you buy a gun and shoot him in the back when he isn't looking.

Also rioters don't deserve to be shot, they deserve a trial and face the consequences.

I think exercising restraint is difficult and the police should be applauded for it.
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So people going around burning shops, buildings and looting them don't deserve to be shot? Nothing personal against you here but the people of this country have lost the plot and gone soft on everything, fear is what will keep these people away not the tactics the police have used in the last few nights.

cotton_flex said:
Southall - Broadway is a big target tonight if the rumour mill on the BB is true.

A lot of Asian jewellers – from Indian/Sikh communities. Potential for a bloodbath if they try it there.
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All Sikhs have been told to come to the gurdwara for 6pm sharp, last night it started kicking off but they were chased away but might come back again tomorrow.

All my popeye Acton Northolt Greenford Ruislip Hayes West Drayton Slough Southall Gurnell Cowgate Marnham Hammresmith Harlseden and Wembly ****** that linked up today Roll thru tomoro at 6pm sharp in Southall broadway hit up the jewellers!
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That is supposedly the message doing the rounds on BBM
 
This is the Britain that I know and love!

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As looters and rioters smashed up shops, looted and fought with police in Camden Town, Philippa Morgan-Walker, 25 and her husband, Jonny Walker, 31, made tea for the police who were protecting their street. Some of the officers had been on duty for more than 30 hours.
 
dirtydog said:
LOL

Look let's just call a spade a spade.

Blacks are much more likely to be criminals and to engage in anti-social behaviour. Nowhere do blacks behave well, whether here or in their own countries, all of which are crap and will stay that way.
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My doctor is non-white and he is very well behaved, as is the owner of the local kebab house and he owns a meat cleaver.

FYI, as "spade" is also used as a racial insult (rude way of saying black) that probably wasn't the best turn of phrase to use ^^
 
Ahleckz said:
This isn't about poverty.

This is about mindless thugs that think this is fun. Race, background and environment doesn't make this happen. Thuggism, herd mentality and idiots cause this. Don't even blame anything else or look for excuses.
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It might not entirely be about poverty and I agree it's not necessarily about background etc... But sld's point was well put that there is a disproportionate skew of that lack of respect for authority and law in the poorer communities and possibly less well represented people.

I heard an interesting interview on LBC this morning - it was a black police officer. I'm compeletely paraphrasing so excuse me for that but it went along the lines of:

I'm a black police officer and I get grief from my peers and other black people as to why I want to join the police. They think I'm there to gang up and pick on "my own kind" - they don't see me as an asset to the community.

I have Sikh and Indian colleagues who are heralded as "members of high standing" in their communities, and looked at with pride when patrolling - they see it as a good respectful job, doing some good in the community. When they walk around in their neighbourhoods, they are approached with respect and interest - furthermore, there is a lot more unity, and sharing of information within their community.

I look at mine, no one shares intelligence with me, they see me as an outcast to my people. It's almost as though there is this inbuilt, engrained negativity towards authority and law - and it seems endemic amongst the black community. I don't know why.
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I think that's quite telling - the way the black police officer was speaking was quite sobering. He sounded well educated and clearly passionate about his job, but so saddened by the reaction of his peers and community. I think it says a lot at the segregation there is in our society that there is very much this "them and us" mentality still on going in SOME of the black community.

It's tragic and sad, as again it's only the most exuberant that are heard, the most prolific and outspoken that people notice - and unfortunately they seem to be the ones that the younger members of the community follow and cheer on.

Why is it that some communities can integrate and hold such different attitudes?

I was rather surprised by this police officer's take on things - I think we all "knew" indirectly that there has been a little bit of tension in the black community - but nothing on this scale.

Heck, there were even a bunch from the Turkish community in Bristol I think creating a block to their properties and shops - they're taking a stand, shame we don't see that from the rest of the communities.


Awful awful awful. No wonder more and more people are racist and so intollerant these days.
 
albert said:
You'll still be scum to me. Gonna block you.
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It's your call. Most 12 year olds aren't capable of making sensible decisions, I certainly wasn't and carry some regrets with me over them. It is what it is, grew up to be a fairly well adjusted adult.
 
Wicksta said:
Its all over Twitter, but then it was all over Twitter that it was kicking off in Slough last night when it wasn't.
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Starting to think social networking is going to be the bane of getting this sorted.

Seeing that BBM and looking at my facebook loads of rumours are starting about riots/attempts at riots all over the country. Apparently Luton is going to kick off tonight, but a few posts have said that a retail park was trashed yesterday when it was actually a couple of bin fires!

The real question is how many "spectators" are going to go to these apparent meets and then just by number of people trouble starting? When if no-one went down to look nothing would happen?
 
StriderX said:
Cameron can shove off, he's probably more concerned that his holiday was cut short.
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Oh god I can't believe the PM took a weeks holiday, how dare he, is he trying to say that running a country is hard work? I mean its not like Blair visibly aged 25 years in a decade due to the stress is it?
 
Ahleckz said:
This is the Britain that I know and love!

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As looters and rioters smashed up shops, looted and fought with police in Camden Town, Philippa Morgan-Walker, 25 and her husband, Jonny Walker, 31, made tea for the police who were protecting their street. Some of the officers had been on duty for more than 30 hours.
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I like the riot shield tray :D
 
semi-pro waster said:
While this is obviously an emotive situation I sometimes think that people are a little bit too keen to write off human rights for people they don't agree with, there isn't a good justification for the rioting or looting that I can see but to wish away peoples human rights or encourage police brutality doesn't seem like a good way to go either. Remember that rights are relatively easy to lose but quite difficult to gain in the first place and may be even harder to regain so while presently it might be for people you don't care for that would be affected doesn't mean that will always be the case.
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Depends on what you would class as police bruatlity though doeasn't it. In this case I would argue water cannon, rubber bullets and horse charges are methods used by the police to defend lives and property of innocents against scum who are not trying to make a political statement and who are just out on the rob.
 
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