Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)
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What? The police are allowed to execute people who refuse to respect the rights of everyone else?
Absolutely amazing way to think England works ..
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Its getting increasingly irritating that people just assume the worst, or assume whatever makes their point. Random person said the gun was in the guys sock, so what, doesn't make it true.
Random person deduces that because the gun was "discovered on the scene" it had to be concealed, where else would they discover it.
A concealed weapon is no reason to shoot someone, if he made a move for it, there is a reason to shoot him. No one knows firstly, if he did shoot, they seemingly don't think he did yet, but they haven't confirmed that. They haven't done testing yet so they could be going purely on say 12 rounds in a 12 round magazine, what if he kept a 13th chambered and thats the only assumption that he hadn't fired yet.
He could easily have raised the weapon and pointed it and been shot and killed before he managed to get a shot off.
When we know something, comment on it, making up rubbish is pointless, anyone can twist it anyway they want.
more importantly, stop confusing the two distinct situations here, a bunch of people rioting, and a guy getting killed by armed cops, they really don't have anything to do with each other at this point.
The IPCC should be absolutely keeping their mouths shut till they know anything. Even if they find damning and conclusive evidence against the police, out today or in a week won't make a difference, the way people would use it as an excuse would make a big difference today rather than in a week, or two.
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Just been on the news (BBC) that the police felt a threat to their safety and hence they are authorised to use the force that they did.
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Not if its retarded.
I'm pretty sure there aren't many people that are comfortable and happy to use firearms in situations like that.
No, he's not.
I'd like to see his criminal history and evidence on facebook on drug dealing please.
Then I'll agree with you he's a drug dealer.
They are in certain situations, there are investigations to ensure that the response was proportionate, but the verdict is often 'lawful killing'.
The majority on here are making simple conclusions based on the overwhelming balance of probability and the facts that have been released. Some people are accusing the police of murder because 'there's no evidence that Mark Duggan did anything', which is an utterly ludicrous assumption to make.
a friend rang me at about 4 this evening and said he'd heard it was going to kick but i thought it was just rumours but there's ppl on fb saying it now, they're apparently doing tj hughes over, that's the same tj hughes that has gone into liquidation. i don't know if any of this is true or not but i'm certainly not driving over to find out.
WOW, what an insight - the police feel uncomfortable when they are confronted by people with guns
The police have a life outside being a policeman as well you know.
How thick can you get?
Nope. Please show.
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What you quoted from Dolph, he simply said absolutely nothing of the kind of what you took from it. Heres a hint, look for the words execution or shooting without reason, neither of which he said.
The police indeed are allowed to shoot people who are actively trying to kill other people, therefore Dolph saying there are situations in which its ok, is correct.
In the technical sense yes, but I meant that if he, for example, shot at the police it probably would have been stated by now I would have imagined.
I would imagine and would hope that the police acted appropriated.
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