Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)
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The point about the police has always been (from the criminal's point of view) that they have a bigger 'gang' than you, you cant win. When the scallys outnumber them, then we need others to stand up.
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Is the live Sky News from their internet page different to the Sky news channel on the TV???
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Hackers Deface BlackBerry Blog Over Riot BBM Assistance
Hacker group TeaMp0isoN (Team Poison) took over a post about BlackBerry App World 3.0 and threatened to access and release data in RIM's employee database if the company helps police identify people who allegedly used BBM to coordinate riots in London as well as cities like Birmingham, Bristol, and Liverpool.
BBM allows for free texting between BlackBerry owners and cannot be readily accessed by law enforcement, so it is an easy way to coordinate undetected. According to a recent study from the U.K.'s Office of Communication (Ofcom), approximately 37 percent of U.K. teens have BlackBerrys, a preference that is driven primarily because of access to BBM.
In a Monday statement, RIM said it was cooperating with authorities on the matter.
"As in all markets around the world where BlackBerry is available, we cooperate with local telecommunications operators, law enforcement and regulatory officials," RIM said. "Similar to other technology providers in the U.K. we comply with The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act and co-operate fully with the Home Office and U.K. police forces."
The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, or RIPA, is a law enacted in 2000 that allows for government interception of communications, particularly as it relates to the Internet and encrypted electronic communications.
"You Will _NOT_ assist the UK Police because if u do innocent members of the public who were at the wrong place at the wrong time and owned a blackberry will get charged for no reason at all, the Police are looking to arrest as many people as possible to save themselves from embarrassment," TriCk, a member of Team Poison, wrote on the blog.
TriCk said RIM "will regret it" if it hands over chat logs, GPS location, customer information, or access to peoples' BBMs. "We have access to your database which includes your employees information; e.g – Addresses, Names, Phone Numbers etc. – now if u assist the police, we _WILL_ make this information public and pass it onto rioters…. do you really want a bunch of angry youths on your employees doorsteps?"
The police will be of no help, TriCk continued; "the police can't protect themselves, alone protect others."
Despite threatening to sick an angry mob on RIM employees, TriCk insisted that he and Team Poison "do not condone ... innocent people being attacked in these riots nor do we condone ... small businesses being looted." The group does, however, support rioters "engaging in attacks on the police and government."
"Before anyone says 'the blackberry employees are innocent' no they are not! They are the ones that would be assisting the police," he concluded.
Hacker group TeaMp0isoN (Team Poison) took over a post about BlackBerry App World 3.0 and threatened to access and release data in RIM's employee database if the company helps police identify people who allegedly used BBM to coordinate riots in London as well as cities like Birmingham, Bristol, and Liverpool.
BBM allows for free texting between BlackBerry owners and cannot be readily accessed by law enforcement, so it is an easy way to coordinate undetected. According to a recent study from the U.K.'s Office of Communication (Ofcom), approximately 37 percent of U.K. teens have BlackBerrys, a preference that is driven primarily because of access to BBM.
In a Monday statement, RIM said it was cooperating with authorities on the matter.
"As in all markets around the world where BlackBerry is available, we cooperate with local telecommunications operators, law enforcement and regulatory officials," RIM said. "Similar to other technology providers in the U.K. we comply with The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act and co-operate fully with the Home Office and U.K. police forces."
The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, or RIPA, is a law enacted in 2000 that allows for government interception of communications, particularly as it relates to the Internet and encrypted electronic communications.
"You Will _NOT_ assist the UK Police because if u do innocent members of the public who were at the wrong place at the wrong time and owned a blackberry will get charged for no reason at all, the Police are looking to arrest as many people as possible to save themselves from embarrassment," TriCk, a member of Team Poison, wrote on the blog.
TriCk said RIM "will regret it" if it hands over chat logs, GPS location, customer information, or access to peoples' BBMs. "We have access to your database which includes your employees information; e.g – Addresses, Names, Phone Numbers etc. – now if u assist the police, we _WILL_ make this information public and pass it onto rioters…. do you really want a bunch of angry youths on your employees doorsteps?"
The police will be of no help, TriCk continued; "the police can't protect themselves, alone protect others."
Despite threatening to sick an angry mob on RIM employees, TriCk insisted that he and Team Poison "do not condone ... innocent people being attacked in these riots nor do we condone ... small businesses being looted." The group does, however, support rioters "engaging in attacks on the police and government."
"Before anyone says 'the blackberry employees are innocent' no they are not! They are the ones that would be assisting the police," he concluded.
I'd disagree with that.
You realise how many of them will be local business and shop owners?
If that's one thing a lot of these religious communities have going for them is that they have a much greater sense of community spirit, they will all help each other.
Also, I believe Sikhs are tooled up... they are allowed to carry knives right?
latest news from southall.
Watch out for this guy! HE HAZZ SAMURAIZ SWORDZ
Sikhs are allowed to carry ceremonial knives... I imagine it makes for quite the deterrent. Don't know what the actual intended use is.
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latest news from southall.
Watch out for this guy! HE HAZZ SAMURAIZ SWORDZ
Aren't those illegal now ?
Not that I care.
It's needed right now !
Ok, that's too far for me to leave my end unprotected to join up but seeing as I've missed a day of training because of this madness I wouldn't mind doing a few rounds as I need the sparring.
This, but I believe they have to be blunt.
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Smart people have ALWAYS known this, police no where in the world can cope with massive rioting, its not possible and it would bankrupt any economy around trying to keep those kinds of numbers of police on the streets "just in case".
Now maybe, we should have a few more community people, with no criminal records, healthy and fit who can become reserve riot police, go in for an intensive training course, and a night or two a month for new tactics and practice, getting up to date on latest tactics and equipment. Thats a possibility, but that would still cost a lot in a country wide setup.
A "normal" sized policeforce can deal with general crime, not with a huge number of people rioting, thats just life.
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People's reach can only go so far. If everyone looks after their street/square mile it works well. Sikhs protecting their temple, Muslims covering their Mosque ground, football fans, pub lads, Turkish covering their kebabs... win wiin I say.
Much better than people just staring at the thungs and standing there dumstruck from sheer curiousity & entertainment value.
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You can even carry a chainsaw I think, provided you have a legit reason...such as if you are a tree surgeon.
Time to change career for the week eh lol
Epic response from the communities effected over this one. Of course vigilantism can take a wrong turn, but the sheer amount of people willing to put themselves on the street to deter these scum really gives me hope for society. Normally everyone is very quick to judge from their armchairs, but few get up and do something about it. Good to see.
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