Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)

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I don't think so. A mate who is in the army has said to me that it looked like an old army trick where they send in the dogs to test to see what you can and can't do.
That's if some people are organizing all of this. I want to know where do we go from here?

Riots stamped out first, robustly when needed.

Community relations improved from there which will be difficult but let's not forget that the rioters are a minority and good folk are a majority.

The police cannot do this alone.
 
The problem is this:

Rioting: > 80% black people
Cleanup: > 80% white people

We had three days of running pictures in the press and media of the former, and now they're following up with the latter. That's going to stoke those kinds of feelings.

i'd go 90% on both, so would a lot of the country. not a good look.
 
Normal everyday life is like an uneasy truce, that's how I see it. Different races and cultures side by side, we tolerate each other, but it doesn't take much for trouble to kick off. Unhappiness, resentment, hatred, whatever you want to call it, it isn't far beneath the surface.
 
Dirty Dog has explained his position on white pride before. He is proud of the colour of his skin and his race. That factor alone does not make you discriminate or be a racist, so white pride in that sense is not racist.

Personally, I find the idea of being proud in my skin colour a little odd. It's not different than hair colour really.

And who would be proud to be ginger?
 
Cameron has just authorised water cannons should they be needed.

About time. Now they need to add some of that special dye that doesn't wash off. Make it a luminous dye, sanction the use of rubber bullets and let the police play some paintball. Now some of that on youtube would really cheer me up! ;)
 
Those who said bring in the army, do you still believe that is necessary given that London was relatively quiet last night with extra boots on the ground ?

Careful Von. I got a torrent of pretty bad abuse from multiple posters from saying that. I RTM'ed it but no action. Nevermind huh.
 
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Bigsmoke black people are getting blamed as in the first few days every picture, or piece of tv footage contained black people looting and not white, this changed somewhat last night in Manchester.

The clean up pictures yesturday shown had at least 85% white people and 15% other, so its no surprise that its become a lot like black v white.
 
The problem is this:

Rioting: > 80% black people
Cleanup: > 80% white people

We had three days of running pictures in the press and media of the former, and now they're following up with the latter. That's going to stoke those kinds of feelings.

nice statistics, make them up out of thin air to justify your post? ace

well my survey says that the looting is 100% nothing to do with race

wow according to that statistic, looks like im correct - well done me!
 
Riots stamped out first, robustly when needed.

Community relations improved from there which will be difficult but let's not forget that the rioters are a minority and good folk are a majority.

The police cannot do this alone.

Only took three days of rioting for the Met to get a grip on the situation, now we have large gangs of armed/drunk vigilantes patrolling the streets of London too. The Met can take no credit at all from last night's relative calm, they've been thoroughly embarrassed as an organisation.
 
Just saw this on the bbc and made me lol in my office

"1055: BBC Monitoring Libyan foreign ministry spokesman Khalid Ka'im has called on world governments to take action over the unrest in the UK. David Cameron has lost legitimacy and "must go", Libya's official news agency Jana reports. Libya "demands that the international community not stand with arms folded in the face of this gross aggression against the rights of the British people, who are demanding its right to rule its country", the report said."

LOL WUT :p
 
Much better response from Cameron today though is it not a little late? Although last night spread around the country the peak of the violence (in terms on intensity) seems to have passed, are they likely to need baton rounds or water cannons now?
 
Those who said bring in the army, do you still believe that is necessary given that London was relatively quiet last night with extra boots on the ground ?

well if bringing in the army 3 days ago would have meant extra boots on the ground back then, then yeah it would have worked.

of course after 3-4 days it's going to be hard to say whether the extra man power made as much of a difference as simply people just being bored/knackered/nothing left to rob.

So if extra people is the reason for it dying down then yes.

if it's purely a time thing then maybe hard to say.
 
Kent Brockman: Hordes of panicky people seem to be evacuating the town for some unknown reason. Professor, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it's time for our viewers to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside?

Professor: Mmm, yes I would, Kent.
 
Only took three days of rioting for the Met to get a grip on the situation, now we have large gangs of armed/drunk vigilantes patrolling the streets of London too. The Met can take no credit at all from last night's relative calm, they've been thoroughly embarrassed as an organisation.

It's the left that is so against active policing of working class scum, ie your lot ;) Perhaps if they hadn't hamstrung the police with constant attacks and accusations of heavy handedness and brutality when they've tried to deal with rioting scum in the past, they'd have been more prepared to act this time?
 
I think you ignore the effects of spending cuts at your own peril. It's not like the Conservative's weren't warned that their planned spending cuts would cause unrest - the leader of their coalition partners warned them before the election.

No, the problem was created when a certain government decided the best way to deal with the failing economy was to employ as many people as possible into the public sector, by creating completley unnecessary jobs, and throw benefits at the rest.

Labour would have made most of the same cuts as the Tories, as would Lib Dem, two parties heavily heavily lied to YOU in the elections and one didn't.

Look at America, who are going down the "labout campaign promises route" have the world, someone else will pay for it, wooo. Their economy is closer to the brink than ours, and theirs is less reliant on the EU which is completely screwed.

All conservatives are doing is removing life support that SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN APPLIED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

We'll expose problems that have been bubbling under the surface for years, but Labours plan of, spend our way out of problems just means the problems get worse and blow up in our faces bigger, worse and far more dangerously than they would have if we ever governered the country properly.

How the hell can you still support Labour when its plain to see the utter crap job they've done, everywhere, in everything, and jesus christ, look who is in charge of them, seriously, the leadership is made up of just about the most hateful, spiteful **** of a woman in the entire country, a guy who literally comes across as retarded when he speaks(not just the voice), and a whole other bunch of idiot union puppets who have done their best to ruin this country.

Education, joke, NHS, joke, Policing, joke, transport, joke, foreign policy and getting into illegal and 100% unnecessary wars largely responsible for the increases in spending, deficit and debt, joke.
 
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