Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)

[Vonhelmet]

You ever checked when the most violent riots took place in this country?

The problem is not the quality offered by the education system, it is that most of those individuals have had none at all, and their parents haven't filled that void either. They lack knowledge of the most basic of rules to carry on a normal life on a civilised society, labour's attempts to "buy" the attention and assistance to school of these kids have only trivialised the importance of such rules.

Where do we go on for now? That is what all policy makers should be thinking right now.

Which riots are you referring to as "the most violent riots"?

 

[ThundyCat]

Meanie

 

[StriderX]

Social exclusion, utter rubbish, this was wanton violence and thievery.

Stop taking the easy route out of this, we have serious problems to solve in this nation and pointing one finger is not going to help, blame is on everyone, last government, this government, ignorance of the systems, parental problems, economic situation, environment these people live in...the list is so long that we should be ashamed of ourselves not a bunch of hooligans, all they deserve is pity, pity simply because its not some violent action many morons want to see done to these people, we are not barbarians, this is not the dark ages any more, we can and will solve this problem correctly or our country will never move forward.

So what if we imprison them or kill them, it still leaves the problem UNSOLVED, i wish people with no actual insight would just keep it to themselves.

 

[the shadow]

the most violent riots?



if the riots were to continue it would have gotten worse and lot more violent
deaths have already been caused

 

[sigma]

The problem of the entrenched 5% is only going to get worse unless we heavily invest in social entrepreneurship within a state controlled framework - the coalition seem intent on doing the opposite.

Well that's all good and well if we had money but no, your glorious Labour ****wits ****ed up the economy leaving us in the ****.

Let me guess, that was actually the Tories fault, even though they weren't in power...

 

[Danthus]

How was the scaffolder socially excluded, how was the teaching assistant socially excluded or the young girl at grammar school?

We have university students and children of rich businessmen that will be going through the courts.

 

[Paul11]

national service is a great idea

if your 18 and not in study or work, your in the army

then you will learn discipline, hard work, skills, working as a team, and not have time to hang around complaining that you have nothing to do

 

[StriderX]

How was the scaffolder socially excluded, how was the teaching assistant socially excluded or the young girl at grammar school?

We have university students and children of rich businessmen that will be going through the courts.

Even if there are a few oddities in it all, anarchists no doubt, it doesn't mean there isn't a problem behind it all.

 

[Danthus]

Even if there are a few oddities in it all, anarchists no doubt, it doesn't mean there isn't a problem behind it all.

The problem of basic right and wrong?

 

[spudbynight]

I left secondary school in 87, and if we misbehaved are teacher used to throw black board rubbers at us!

Kids these days wouldn't know what a black board is.

 

[spudbynight]

Parliament tomorrow will be a shameful blame game from Labour.

I don't think so. I think Labour know that after 13 years in government they are a pretty big target on this.

 

[scorza]

The problem of basic right and wrong?

The problem is that too many people don't know the difference between right and wrong.

 

[Danthus]

I don't think so. I think Labour know that after 13 years in government they are a pretty big target on this.

You have obviously missed what Harriet Harman and Yvette Cooper have said.

 

[Castiel]

The problem is that too many people don't know the difference between right and wrong.

They know the difference.....they simply do not care.

 

[Deadbeat]

I left secondary school in 87, and if we misbehaved are teacher used to throw black board rubbers at us!

Maybe your teachers should have thrown a bit harder

 

[Whackeygrunt]

I really wish that there was no mercy for the missguided. All those convicted should be treated as vile traitors to the state and executed en mass. What has happened over the last few days is a complete joke and watching that particular vid of that hog of a mother with her chubby std spawned kids and that inbred, **** who wants to riot for a laugh, innit really ****** me off! I think this quote sums up my thoughts on the matter - "You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honorable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, Your time has come."

 

[krooton]

I've said it before, and I will say it again:

STOP PUTTING STUDENTS WHO FAIL A SCHOOL YEAR THROUGH TO THE NEXT ONE!!!!

The amount of 16 year olds with almost no literacy and numerical skills is pathetic for a First World country. How can you then expect these same people to have the skills to go in to tertiary education, let alone get a job?

 

[Greebo]

I left secondary school in 87, and if we misbehaved are teacher used to throw black board rubbers at us!

This. And the other punishment was to hold out your hand and have a ruler on its edge smacked down on the back of your hand.

 

[hola_adios]

Which riots are you referring to as "the most violent riots"?

How far back in time do we have to go back to find riots on a scale like these ones? In the UK of course (Swing riots? 19th century?).

My point is that if the situation has deteriorated this much, and riots at this scale are not common a occurrence in the UK, and none of those involved have and economical or social segregation problems, we are left with other alternatives, e.g. it is not lack of education, it is worst is an excess of the wrong type of education and the wrong ethical code been used.

These kids were acting coordinated, very well coordinated in fact, and almost all of them knew exactly when it become too dangerous to go and commit criminal acts again. The patterns of attacks and how they were acting in front of the police were rather scary once you look at the images and follow the places and timings of the attacks.

It is the new ways of mob mentality, much more fluid and with instant communications between individual components, it has been demonstrated in a much bigger scale in the Arab countries, and we have just seen a snippet of it here.

Just by waving this off and not analysing the situation further we will allow the problem to get much worst. In this scenario people shouting "these are just criminals" have their heads as stuck in the sand as much as those going "poor kids, society has let them down".

 

[Dolph]

If I was Cameron now, I'd double bluff those opportunistically calling for the police cuts to be reversed. I'd confirm that we're reversing the budget cuts to the police force, but that all the efficiency improvements, the ending of spanish practices around overtime, the reform of pensions and medical retirement of all 'officers' no longer fit for frontline duty would continue, and all the money saved would be spent on new active street police only

Public support would be high, and it would wonderfully outmaneuver the political behaviour of the police in trying to preserve indefensibly outdated working practices by hiding behind the riot.