Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)

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And then those black people who have risen above it, will be hated by the majority of the black people who haven't and don't want to. Names such as coconut will be bandied about. What sort of backward culture hates nice or successful people, and loves scumbags and criminals.

A culture who for centuries before it was treated as slaves by the whites, who then pushed them into ghettos and made life as difficult as possible for them so that now they're trapped in a circle of crime and poverty.
 
A culture who for centuries before it was treated as slaves by the whites, who then pushed them into ghettos and made life as difficult as possible for them so that now they're trapped in a circle of crime and poverty.

Hahaha so it's OUR fault! Of course!!
 
"our" past actions?

I don't remember owning a slave.

You know what I meant, you're not that dense. I was speaking culturally.

The actions of the "whites", then. Better? Or our ancestors, if you want to exclude the skin colour from it.
 
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And then those black people who have risen above it, will be hated by the majority of the black people who haven't and don't want to. Names such as coconut will be bandied about. What sort of backward culture hates nice or successful people, and loves scumbags and criminals.

I think you are getting your ideas of what a majority and a minority are. Gang culture accounts for a small minority of the UK's black population and those that do escape from that life are not hated and vilified by anyone other than the small minority that remain within that lifestyle.

Gangs have been prevalent within inner cities for over a hundred years, across all ethnic groups and at the moment we are focusing on youth gang culture that has largely been imported from the United States.

You also don't seem to grasp the basic point that Black Culture is not the same as Gang Culture.

This has got nothing to do with oppression of their ancestors or any innate culture clash, it has to do with criminality, social deprivation and their lives now. Those bringing up the Atlantic Triangle are as guilty of ignoring the real issues in our inner cities as those who are focusing on the skin colour as the reason for their criminality and antisocial attitudes.

Focusing predominantly on the colour of the criminals is counter productive and will only alienate those within those communities who are law-abiding and potential role models for those who would grow up alienated and more likely to follow in the footsteps of the criminal element of these communities. We need to engage these people while at the same time punishing those who break the law and blaming their skin colour does nothing but make the situation worse than it already is as it gives the criminals a justification for their actions that simply doesn't or shouldn't exist.
 
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Truth hurts, eh.

The black communities in our inner cities do not identify with the slaves of the Atlantic Slave Trade. To blame the problems in our inner cities on something that most wouldn't even have any real knowledge of, let alone identify with is only undermining your argument.

The issues that effect these people are ones they face today, not ones that their ancestors (if their ancestor were even slaves to begin with) faced over 200 years ago.
 
I think you are getting your ideas of what a majority and a minority are. Gang culture accounts for a small minority of the UK's black population and those that do escape from that life are not hated and vilified by anyone other than the small minority that remain within that lifestyle.

Gangs have been prevalent within inner cities for over a hundred years, across all ethnic groups and at the moment we are focusing on youth gang culture that has largely been imported from the United States.

You also don't seem to grasp the basic point that Black Culture is not the same as Gang Culture.

This has got nothing to do with oppression of their ancestors or any innate culture clash, it has to do with criminality, social deprivation and their lives now. Those bringing up the Atlantic Triangle are as guilty of ignoring the real issues in our inner cities as those who are focusing on the skin colour as the reason for their criminality and antisocial attitudes.

Focusing predominantly on the colour of the criminals is counter productive and will only alienate those within those communities who are law-abiding and potential role models for those who would grow up alienated and more likely to follow in the footsteps of the criminal element of these communities. We need to engage these people while at the same time punishing those who break the law and blaming their skin colour does nothing but make the situation worse than it already is as it gives the criminals a justification for their actions that simply doesn't or shouldn't exist.

Yes you know all about it in theory, I know about it in reality, that's the difference. You ain't even British are you?
 
No, you are just way off the mark!

You're right, enslaving coloured people actually helped them and they've wasted the opportunity that was lovingly given to them and so it's all their own fault and we're not to blame at all for their current situation. Yeah?

Or could you offer another reason, perhaps "on the mark"?
 
Yes you know all about it in theory, I know about it in reality, that's the difference. You ain't even British are you?

Yes I am British I was born here and have spent most of my life here, and grew up in a situation where I was very much involved in gangs and criminality, I was one of those people lucky enough to find someone who took the time to help focus my anger and attitude in a more productive direction.

Don't go making assumptions about people when you do not know the full history of that person.
 
You're right, enslaving coloured people actually helped them and they've wasted the opportunity that was lovingly given to them and so it's all their own fault and we're not to blame at all for their current situation. Yeah?

Or could you offer another reason, perhaps "on the mark"?
What colour are you, or is your skin transparent?
 
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