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Wait for Bulldozer or upgrade to Sandybridge?
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And my is point you just cant base CPUs fail on those 3 aspects as there are other aspects to consider than just those 3 even when those 3 are correct.
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very true
i don't base things only on them 3 aspects , features and price are what i look for also.
Of course it would make a nice change to knock intel off their perch but everyone is different & BD may fail to do that but for some doing that is just a bonus & not a necessity.
Any CPU without an Unlocked Multi is fail for me.
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ha, Now I agree with the entirely. k range of Sandybridges are the only ones to consider, so fair enough on that note
You might as well wait now, I was itching for an upgrade back in late january. All the talk of Bulldozer got me excited but I went with the 2500k instead, 7 months later and Bulldozer still isn't here but my i5 has just been awesome tbh, worth every penny.
Play the waiting game and see what happens with prices
Play the waiting game and see what happens with prices
BD will have to be something pretty special to compete with the 2500K. Don't remember a chip that was so easy to overclock with blistering performance to boot.
I couldn't be bothered waiting for for BD when I was looking to upgrade in May - there's always something bigger and better around the corner but given the delays who knows when it will actually be available to buy (as opposed to available in theory, but no one has any stock).
I couldn't be bothered waiting for for BD when I was looking to upgrade in May - there's always something bigger and better around the corner but given the delays who knows when it will actually be available to buy (as opposed to available in theory, but no one has any stock).
the problem is, we talk utter rubbish 9 times out 10. fair enough Sandy Bridge is faster than Deneb and Thuban is a lot of aspects, but competing on price alone there isn't a massive amount in it, fair enough the AMD processors are clocked higher than their Intel rivals to compete but 99% of the world don't give a damn. the way the vast majority of people look at it is 'Phenom II X6 for £X' and 'Intel Core i5 at £X', most people don't give a toss if the Intel overclocks well or offers higher IPC because look at the Netburst days, very very successful even though slower clock for clock than K8 was, and why? because nobody gives a damn about IPC and overclocking except a tiny percentage of the market, i.e. us enthusiasts.
so your talking absolute and utter crap to the highest level if you claim that AMD are failing based on the fact they consume a little more power, are a bit slower clock for clock and run a little hotter. they are priced well and offer good performance for their price, to the rest of the world anything else is irrelevant. so as long as AMD keep doing what they are doing, as long as Bulldozer takes the fight back to Intel and Zacate keeps thoroughly stamping all over Atom and Llano keeps stamping all over Intel in the market it is targetted at, then AMD will continue to grow and be successful.
so your talking absolute and utter crap to the highest level if you claim that AMD are failing based on the fact they consume a little more power, are a bit slower clock for clock and run a little hotter. they are priced well and offer good performance for their price, to the rest of the world anything else is irrelevant. so as long as AMD keep doing what they are doing, as long as Bulldozer takes the fight back to Intel and Zacate keeps thoroughly stamping all over Atom and Llano keeps stamping all over Intel in the market it is targetted at, then AMD will continue to grow and be successful.
it depends what you have now, if you have something similar as me might as well wait for bulldozer, still if you dont only 1 and half months left till it comes out.
Well im waiting for bulldozer if it will be fully computable with ChIV , i would only need to buy cpu .
Well im waiting for bulldozer if it will be fully computable with ChIV , i would only need to buy cpu .
still can't believe so many are judging things as a failure because it doesn't satisfy their expectations for temperature, power consumption and clocking ability. anyone who thinks that Phenom II has been a complete failure is just clearly several fries short of a happy meal, since it occupies a position in the market which makes it competitive regardless of the Instructions Per Clock deficit, because it competes on a price/performance basis it is successful.
at stock a £100 Phenom II X4 competes with its stock rival Intel, that is all there is too it. at stock Llano surpasses its Intel rivals in its target market (i.e. HTPC, laptop, without discrete graphics), same goes with the low power net-book end of the scale, with Zacate well and truly beating Atom at everything, funny how all the AMD doom-sayers forget these facts. also Bulldozer is a success if it competes on a price/performance basis in the market, who cares if it isn't as fast clock for clock as Sandy Bridge, the fact it is clocked higher be default and prices competitively make it a marketing success, its only when enthusiasts clock the hell out of Sandy that it will be superior, which to the other 99% of the market is irrelevant.
at stock a £100 Phenom II X4 competes with its stock rival Intel, that is all there is too it. at stock Llano surpasses its Intel rivals in its target market (i.e. HTPC, laptop, without discrete graphics), same goes with the low power net-book end of the scale, with Zacate well and truly beating Atom at everything, funny how all the AMD doom-sayers forget these facts. also Bulldozer is a success if it competes on a price/performance basis in the market, who cares if it isn't as fast clock for clock as Sandy Bridge, the fact it is clocked higher be default and prices competitively make it a marketing success, its only when enthusiasts clock the hell out of Sandy that it will be superior, which to the other 99% of the market is irrelevant.
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excellent point
I have to say I have always had a lot of time for AMD processors. Cheap fast and easy to upgrade. I decided to get my first Intel chip,the 2600k i7 and it blows everything I used before out of the water. It overclocks to 4.9 with watercooling and is very stable.
I used to hear lot of good reports about Intel chips when I have my Phenom x4. It was a good chip but this is in a different league entirely. The new AMD chips look very impressive but they will need to be as this Sandybridge 17/P67mobo combo is by far the best CPU I have ever owned. I would still be an AMD fan as I say and looking forward to the new CPU's
i7 260k 3.4G
Asus p67 PRO
8GB of Ripjaw 2100 ram
I used to hear lot of good reports about Intel chips when I have my Phenom x4. It was a good chip but this is in a different league entirely. The new AMD chips look very impressive but they will need to be as this Sandybridge 17/P67mobo combo is by far the best CPU I have ever owned. I would still be an AMD fan as I say and looking forward to the new CPU's
i7 260k 3.4G
Asus p67 PRO
8GB of Ripjaw 2100 ram
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Gashman has it bang on. AMD are well prices mid performance parts lots of people, myself included want a gaming rig as cheap as they can get it and don't mind dropping a few fps to save £ 50.
For instance I still have a first gen phenom, yeah it sucks at superpi and benchmarkting but with a 6850 I still get 50 fps on BFBC2 and it looks great.
I plan to wait for bulldozer then get a cheap second hand phenom II or a cheap bulldozer if it gives much better performance.
Like most people I don't need record breaking benchmark scores I just want a fast pc that plays games.
For instance I still have a first gen phenom, yeah it sucks at superpi and benchmarkting but with a 6850 I still get 50 fps on BFBC2 and it looks great.
I plan to wait for bulldozer then get a cheap second hand phenom II or a cheap bulldozer if it gives much better performance.
Like most people I don't need record breaking benchmark scores I just want a fast pc that plays games.
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