Little boy murdered

Straw man argument if I've ever seen one...

So the FACT that a huge number of people who are executed have the mental and educational age of a young child is utter nonsense then :rolleyes::rolleyes:

It's nothing about 'Justice' and totally hate driven revenge and retribution! Capital punishment has NO PLACE in a civilized society and should remain in the dark ages and be a part of history that we are through-ally ashamed of!!
 
Awful. Having children myself the thought of someone harming and innocent defenceless 3 year old is abhorrent.
 
Honestly, I think capital punishment arguments are useless because neither side is going to be swayed ever by any argument the other side offers. At the most basic level it's going to boil down to one side accusing the other of being too bloodthirsty and vengeful and the other side saying the other is too soft and too liberal.
 
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lol @ the argument in this thread.

Here's to hoping that all those against the DP never get murdered or have someone close to them get murdered eh? Or have to pay massive amounts of their hard earned into the 'justice' system.

Get back to your nu labour manifestos.
 
Honestly, I think capital punishment arguments are useless because neither side is going to be swayed ever by any argument the other side offers. At the most basic level it's going to boil down to one side accusing the other of being too bloodthirsty and vengeful and the other side saying the other is too soft and too liberal.

Which is all well and good, but the evidence suggests that it doesn't work, and that's a lot harder to argue with than people's knee-jerk bum-rape and dismemberment suggestions.
 
Here's to hoping that all those against the DP never get murdered

I'd be hoping for that regardless of the penalties in force...

:rolleyes:

And what has nu Labour got to do with it? Show me one current political party that is in favour of the death penalty?
 
Death sentence is needed for crimes like these.
I'm confused with your idea of punishment. Why would you want him to be punished so quickly, thats just the easy way out for him:confused: Why not have him spend the rest of his life in a small cell with nothing but bread and water for a diet, two buckets one for excrement one for feces and thats his lot!
 
Killing someone in self defence in the face of immediate danger is very different from executing someone after the dust has settled.

Indeed. So again, you have no issue with the perp getting killed so long as it's in self defence at the time of the crime but you don't feel that the state should sanction it. I can understand that.

Honestly, I think capital punishment arguments are useless because neither side is going to be swayed ever by any argument the other side offers. At the most basic level it's going to boil down to one side accusing the other of being too bloodthirsty and vengeful and the other side saying the other is too soft and too liberal.

Talking about capital punishment is like talking about politics. The other side are almost always going to think they are right and that the enemy is a moron. Occasionally you get people with an open mind who are willing to debate and listen to your views and try and sway you and then not go "We'll you are still a moron" if you don't agree. Vonhelmet I'm pleased to say is just such a person. I'd like to think I am too.
 
I've got a 3 year old aswell and if ever there was a need for capital punishment this is it.

really?


iirc don't death penalty cases normally have to involve premeditation?


The tax payers will now have to pay thousands to keep him in a nice warm prison with 3 meals a day.


where as with a death penalty you'd have to pay thousands to keep him in prison for the next 20-30 years + about 7 appeals costing hundreds of thousands/millions a pop.
 
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