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Deiwos said:
That's why the tanky champion jungles or solos top, not play as support for the AD carry bottom.

I'm pretty sure you're just trolling now.
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They don't necessarily need to be tanky, just good enough at self preservation not to get obliterated against two heroes.

The reason you want 2 heroes on the bottom is for control of the dragon (assuming your jungler is half decent and beats theirs to it).

Also the metagame at the moment doesn't favour straight tanks much at the moment, CC and burst damage are the order of the day.
 
@arknor while I don't agree with your methods of going afk ( over 600 never once afked or left regardless ) it is annoying when you play a tank role and the AD carry expect you to not last hit anything, when I'm put in that situation I'll try and take 1 minion per creep wave until I get a philo/heart of gold and by the team fights should happen with assist gold and you can build up some good items.

I have to add this is for normals and not ranked, ranked I'll fit in with what others choose.
 
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arknor said:
im not trolling anyone leona cant jungle at all :) shes a stunner helps people get kills really easily but when your told your not allowed to last hit its just a joke...

your the one who admitted trolling all my posts further up the page you have some personal grudge against me even though we have never met its pretty pathetic
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You failed to miss the point of my previous post, so I'll make it abundantly clear for you:

Tanky champions generally solo top or jungle so they can farm in order to buy items. If you're in lane with a tanky champion such as Leona when your lane partner is the AD carry (or AP carry for that matter) then you aren't fulfilling the role of the tank as you shouldn't be farming gold away from the AD carry. Initiating is all well and good but if your team doesn't have damage, then your team is pointless.

So, based on what I've said above you should've been solo'ing top with Leona or playing a different champion. I imagine you're one of those players in normal games where you just lock in immediately. I appreciate solo-queue of either type encourages a **** you mentality but if you want to win, which lets face it everyone does, then playing as part of the team is crucial.

Evidently you don't play as part of the team, which for a 30 year old grown man is quite pathetic but then with your attitude towards everything else this probably shouldn't surprise me.
 
Yamahahahahaha said:
They don't necessarily need to be tanky, just good enough at self preservation not to get obliterated against two heroes.

The reason you want 2 heroes on the bottom is for control of the dragon (assuming your jungler is half decent and beats theirs to it).

Also the metagame at the moment doesn't favour straight tanks much at the moment, CC and burst damage are the order of the day.
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True, I don't mean to say that all solo tops have to be tanky, but if you're going to play a tanky champion then generally speaking solo top is where they go.

Obviously there's reasons for the duo bot lane but that isn't what this was about. This was about arknor complaining that he wasn't allowed to farm bot with Leona when laning with Caitlyn, which should be abundantly clear.
 
Not many tanks are item dependant in the early game, so your main role is to defend and set up opportunities for the carry, whom you should be laning with at the bottom.
It's not uncommon for Soraka players to have single digit amounts of creep kills by the end of the game.
 
doubt its worth it as the person in the enemy jungle can be easily ganked and he cant move between all of the enemy spawns easily.

ive won a 4v5 where 3 people laned and 1 of us jungled/ganked though
 
arknor said:
doubt its worth it as the person in the enemy jungle can be easily ganked and he cant move between all of the enemy spawns easily.

ive won a 4v5 where 3 people laned and 1 of us jungled/ganked though
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It's not two players clearing camps separately though, you'd be going through as a duo so your counter jungling/ganks would be extra lethal surely.
 
Yamahahahahaha said:
Not many tanks are item dependant in the early game, so your main role is to defend and set up opportunities for the carry, whom you should be laning with at the bottom.
It's not uncommon for Soraka players to have single digit amounts of creep kills by the end of the game.
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That's the old version of Soraka. They reduced her survivability, just stun/silence when she is at around half health so she can't heal/armour and lay waste.
 
cHk4 said:
@arknor while I don't agree with your methods of going afk ( over 600 never once afked or left regardless ) it is annoying when you play a tank role and the AD carry expect you to not last hit anything, when I'm put in that situation I'll try and take 1 minion per creep wave until I get a philo/heart of gold and by the team fights should happen with assist gold and you can build up some good items.

I have to add this is for normals and not ranked, ranked I'll fit in with what others choose.
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Agreed on that one if I'm laning with a tank and playing AD carry (quite a lot) then I expect the other guy to be taking some creeps, heck it's a normal game people aren't going to take it quite as serious as ranked. However I do try as much as possible to get all the creeps just because I have more confidence in me carrying the game than my team mates :p
 
Nullvoid said:
Has anyone come across double jungling in their time playing? It's a pretty interesting thought to have all three lanes solo and then a pair roaming your own/the enemy's jungle.
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I've seen this once before and to be honest it's a terrible idea.

Assuming the other team has a jungler then one of your junglers is going to be pretty under levelled or worse your two junglers are going to compete against each other and end up being both under farmed and levelled.

The solo lanes will also get zoned out quite easily by semi-compentent players.

If the other team doesn't have a jungler then it makes things easier, however again against a team with a bit of team-play then they will prob ward their own jungle and gank the second jungler to high heaven.
 
Yamahahahahaha said:
Not many tanks are item dependant in the early game, so your main role is to defend and set up opportunities for the carry, whom you should be laning with at the bottom.
It's not uncommon for Soraka players to have single digit amounts of creep kills by the end of the game.
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I cannot stress this enough, I play Ashe a lot and that early game is critical for her to get the march on other players. He is highly dependant on gold, if she is sharing the gold with another champion it reduces the point she comes into her own. Conversely if you are playing against a carry you should be working on keeping that player from last hitting and gaining the gold.

5 carries in theory sounds good but what you end up with is 5 glass cannons, what you need is your tank to persuade the opposing team that he is the person to go for by sticking himself a bit more out there and the support to substain the carries and protect them.
 
I don't actually see the issue in a tank taking a few creeps out of each wave in all honesty, at least until the point where they can get a couple of gold per 5 items and then it's not such an issue. If your tank can't escape a tower dive simply because he can't afford the basic boots or something, that's a bit of a freebie for the other team.
 
soullessfire said:
I don't actually see the issue in a tank taking a few creeps out of each wave in all honesty, at least until the point where they can get a couple of gold per 5 items and then it's not such an issue. If your tank can't escape a tower dive simply because he can't afford the basic boots or something, that's a bit of a freebie for the other team.
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Sounds like it but you're effectively taking 50 or more gold out of each wave when you shouldn't need it - you're also then racing for last hits with your partner which never ends well (push to hard). As a tank I tend to get philosophers stone to offset the lack of last hits.

When the minions reachj your tower i'd agree get the last hit before the tower :)
 
Tanks in duo lane ..... wat? Just dont do it and suddenly the arguement is void, tanks should be solo top or jungle.
 
Anim said:
Tanks in duo lane ..... wat? Just dont do it and suddenly the arguement is void, tanks should be solo top or jungle.
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Now I know you know what you are talking about but tank/support if you want to be picky.

Does depend on the tank top lane - very easy to deny them tbh
 
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